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hah fucking gotem @X

@IlyaHolt @deltaIV9250 No booster catch attempt for flight 12 and probably 13 either. New engines, new grid fins, etc. means shake down test for soft splash down

@deltaIV9250 100% successful launch, decent booster catch attempt (even if unsuccessful), ship reenters correctly, but fails to land for whatever reason.

Curious what your guys’ metric for “I’m not disappointed” is for Starship flight 12

@Yrouel86 @dinda @Stuck4ger Don’t get me started on how many failure points a physical switch adds to a system lol

@dinda @Stuck4ger And yet the touch screen rich capsule is the only one currently able to ferry astronauts to and from LEO while your button rich capsule lost 6 DOF and those buttons and switches did nothing to prevent that (even the fix was done from ground).

Touchscreens exude high-tech coolness but that doesn’t mean it’s the best interface for all situations. Imagine what a few grains of sharp lunar regolith under your glove could do to that screen. Most appreciate the tactile feedback of a push tile in high vibratory environments.

@TeslaTim2 @Tesla FSD should be paid for by miles driven

Meh. Wife that is flat out not worth it for $100/month, when she only has to drive 8 miles a day round trip to work. @Tesla

@dbentley @DumDumDarren @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 A parabola is a segment of an ellipse

@AngerAero @DumDumDarren @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 I figured a parabola vs an ellipse was an important difference...

Why does @elonmusk's profile pic look like a giant, painful dildo? Is he foreshadowing?

@Fibostraccio @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 It’s not my standard, it’s a fact. And speaking of facts, you can’t stop yapping about it. Do everyone a favor and close your mouth before you swallow your orbital piss

@AngerAero @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 “Just stating a fact” Sure. And by your standard, every drunk writing his name in the snow is performing orbital mechanics.

@Brown_built @JustMe130805 @Tazerface16 To avoid being responsible for the world’s single largest object being uncontrolled in LEO and having no clue where it would reenter at. Usually it would be fine because the craft would burn up, but it’s made of stainless steel and has a heat shield so it’s not burning up.

@AngerAero @JustMe130805 @Tazerface16 Why didn't they?

@Fibostraccio @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 I’m not making an argument, I was stating a fact. You’re the only whiney little girl crying about it

@AngerAero @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 You said “pedantically” because without pedantry your argument dies instantly. By your standard, my piss reaches orbit too: it follows a curved path in freefall and intersects Earth on purpose. That is not orbit. That is just you lowering the bar to toilet level.

@tap364 @BruceMcNau41981 @Tazerface16 A ballistic trajectory is an orbital trajectory that intersects with the surface of the earth. So yes, all starships launches follow an orbital path.

@AngerAero @BruceMcNau41981 @Tazerface16 You are fully misunderstanding the difference between orbital velocity and a ballistic trajectory. All Starship launches were ballistic, not orbital.

@Fibostraccio @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 In my first post on this thread I said “pedantically”. So it turns out you are the only one who’s a triggered little bitch here

@AngerAero @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 “Here, hope this helps” It helped, yes. It helped confirm you were playing semantics the whole time. Even your own source says no in the sense that actually matters in spaceflight. So after all that fanboy theater, we are back where we started: Starship did not achieve orbit.

@bopandy1 @Tazerface16 You posted the wrong photo lil guy

@Tazerface16 Pieces of it made it into orbit though... right?

@Fibostraccio @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 Here, hope this helps x.com/planet4589/sta…

@AngerAero @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 “On orbit but not stayed on orbit” is one of the dumbest fanboy rewrites I’ve seen. If it cannot remain in orbit, it did not achieve orbit as the term is used in spaceflight. Couldn’t stay in orbit = did not achieve orbit.

@Fibostraccio @JustMe130805 @Tazerface16 Piece of out of control space junk. But it was on an orbit, it just didn't stay 'in' orbit. The difference in delta V is tiny at that point. If they ran the engines for a few more seconds it was fully orbital.

@Fibostraccio @JustMe130805 @Tazerface16 The orbited the Earth for about 45 minutes. In space. The orbital path it was on happened to intersect the earth, on purpose. Not because it can't, the test mission was designed that was to avoid having the largest single object ever in LEO from becoming the single largest -

@JustMe130805 @Tazerface16 Maybe one day other spaceships and boosters will be reused. Until then, SpaceX is the only group who have reused their hardware to fly to space.

@AngerAero @Tazerface16 2 or 50 mimutes it is not orbital fly like others spaceships. Maybe one day. Why not

@JustMe130805 @Tazerface16 Starship stayed in orbit for 45 minutes or so. It only needed a few more seconds of keeping its engines on before it was fully orbital. So what exactly is the “much bigger” challenge you speak of?

@AngerAero @Tazerface16 Yes for a few minutes and that's not we talking about. Stay on orbit is much bigger challange

@JustMe130805 @Tazerface16 Sub orbit is a type of orbit pal

@AngerAero @Tazerface16 Geeez they was in SUB orbit

@siffertrix @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 Not because it’s impossible.

@siffertrix @arg_k7 @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 “Into orbit” would be sense 1. “Reaching orbit” is quite simple, all you have to do is follow a parabola. A thrown baseball orbits earth, but doesn’t stay on orbit. Starship was second away from actually staying orbital, anyway. It was a choice not to be orbital, not because

@MattFaustini @grok @Tazerface16 @grok does Matt need an apology? Or am I right in saying starship was orbiting earth, but did not stay in orbit?

@AngerAero @grok @Tazerface16 I will once you apologize and admit I was right

@DumDumDarren @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 Every object in free fall (even say, a baseball) is following an orbital path on a parabola Thereby, starship was orbit, but did not stay in orbit I mean really, if starship kept its engines on for 3 more seconds it would have stayed on orbit. What’s the difference 100-500kph?

@AngerAero @DavidMoralles86 @Tazerface16 Is that question open to everyone? It was a parabolic arc - it went up and came down. An orbit is when the trajectory and velocity are such that freefall carries you around the planet, not back down to it.