Ari

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen My bad for coming in hot at the beginning there, I've been seeing post like this all week and it's had me in a pretty terrible mood knowing people on this website do genuinely hold hatred in their hearts for others in this form

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i'm glad we can agree on something, and i'm glad you see i truly wasn't coming from a place of hatred and i respect you having an adult conversation instead of going straight to insults !

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@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen I think I was haste in my judgement of you in all this because I conflated your opinion on the subject with others. You were willing to engage with me in a real conversation and I respect that. Hoping I can offer you some perspective that could help you see where I'm coming from.

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Genuine question no judgement just trying to have a heart to heart with you here, do you believe the attraction to men is inherently feminine and that a man being attracted to another man is feminine in and of itself? Because that could obviously explain the attraction thing

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen The thing is no one has presented an actual argument for why that would be the case other than what you've mentioned that's the actual issue

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i'm not saying they'd make bad partners or anything i'm just saying i don't agree w the narrative that if you aren't open to having sexual relationships with them then you just hate them and think their disgusting

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen No that's true I agree the problem is the nature of the information and it's relevance to the relationship the problem is that there shouldn't be an issue unless the part you find explicitly unattractive is the idea of your bf having once been in a homosexual relationship

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen finding out information abt someone after can change sexual attraction, it doesn't have to be physical nor does it mean you hate them if that attraction changes

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen No that's not wrong at all...but a bisexual man...is literally a cis man with male genitalia so that obviously doesn't apply to them

the best way i can describe it to you is if i saw a trans man, and i don't know he's trans but im attracted then find out he still has a vagina, am i now transphobic for not wanting him anymore ? i'd still be attracted to his face but the fact that he has a vagina wouldn't be okay for me bc i don't like vaginas. is that wrong ?

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen It's...not offensive to call bisexuals queer. I'm just telling you that bisexuals being queer genuinely has no impact in their ability to enter monogamous heterosexual relationships for life. Most of them are actually in those because they rarely find same sex partners.

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i don't see an issue because it's true you literally just said it yourself they are fucking queer . you agree the B in lgBt stands for bisexual so why is it offensive when i say they are ??

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Your sexualities overlap you're attracted to men and he's attracted to women😭

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen like we literally have different sexualities and that's okay, no one is saying it isn't but yall

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Why would it "obviously" change the way you feel? Why is there a sudden loss in attraction? Can you put to words why that is the case because I really don't see why that would happen for reasons that aren't rooted in homophobia or misogyny

literally no one said they were incompatible .. the point is you guys think straight women should disregard a man's attraction to other men to please ur feelings when in reality if i , as a straight woman saw a gay man and thought he was attractive, then find out he's gay i can still be attracted but it would obviously change the way i view the situation. and that doesn't mean i have hate towards him now or think he's disgusting... my point is just bc they ALSO like women doesn't mean women have to like them back or they hate them ?? and don't tell me it’s " rooted in homophobia " when in reality it just causes a loss of SEXUAL attraction which doesn't equal respect.

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Dude...you keep bringing up how you're not "LGBT" and they are when in reference to bisexual men...as a straight woman. Do you really not see the issue there?

mind you i never said queer = alien i literally just said they are lgbt, never said anything was wrong w it. I just pointed out that's what they are and how im not😂 can you make ONE response without creating shit out of THIN AIR that i NEVER said??? 😭 like genuinely it's getting ridiculous

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen The problem is that upon finding out a man is bisexual you immediately eliminate them from your dating pool explicitly because they are LGBT there is something about them being LGBT that affects your opinion on them so much you no longer find them attractive yeah?

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i don't take it seriously bc ur trying to tell ME how I FEEL abt lgbt people because im open and accepting to them in every way BUT sexually. Then when i ask basic questions you try to deflect from the facts . Bi men are LGBT and that's ok .

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Alright so if a bisexual man is attracted to both men and woman and women who are straight are attracted to men where exactly is the incompatibility in the relationship between a bisexual man and and a straight woman in regards purely to their sexualities?

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen a homosexual man likes one gender, that being other men. Bi sexual men like both genders. I don't see how pointing that out is homophobic

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@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen that response right there was all i needed.. bc are they lgbt or not ??? you keep replying to me but can't answer the most basic question ?

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen What seperates a homosexual man from a bisexual man?

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Man you don't actually take this shit seriously and you want people to respect you treating human rights and discrimination like it's a fucking game when it's people's lives lock in for a sec and think about it

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen For a moment I thought a thought actually crossed your head but then you disappoint me like this come on now

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen LMFAOO now it's wrong to say they are lgbt ??? okay 😂😂 please tell me what the B stands for ?? are bisexuals not queer ??

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Why you talking about "LGBT folk" and "non-LGBT folk" when referring to bisexuals as if you're talking about gays and straights dating each other that's exactly what I'm talking about. You don't think bisexuality is real you don't see them as genuinely being attracted to women.

they literally say nothing about me disliking or hating gay people nor saying anything offensive 😂 it just points out the facts, which is that you guys are mad abt non lgbt people not having romantic relationships wit lgbt men . No one is saying anything that shows disdain for gay ppl ur just hurt by my analogy?

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen I don't personally care about you. No one here does. No self respecting bisexual man wants to date you. heck, they all want to stay far away from you. People are just calling it what it is. It's up to you wether or not you want unpack the reasoning behind your feelings.

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Both post paint a clear picture that you have an aversion to the LGBT which is why you wouldn't date a bisexual. You see any affiliation to LGBT and want to dodge anyone involved even if they are effectively in every day life no different than a straight man which is a phobia