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@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i'm glad we can agree on something, and i'm glad you see i truly wasn't coming from a place of hatred and i respect you having an adult conversation instead of going straight to insults !

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen I think I was haste in my judgement of you in all this because I conflated your opinion on the subject with others. You were willing to engage with me in a real conversation and I respect that. Hoping I can offer you some perspective that could help you see where I'm coming from.

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i don't think it's feminine however i do associate an attraction to men as gay even with the attraction of women too it registers as gay to me sexually , though i can acknowledge they like women. similarly to how people view black and white biracials, like a large portion of people will view you as black, regardless of being mixed. some view you as biracial but no one would say ur white the way they would say ur black yk? like i can acknowledge that part of you but i still see the other side of you as well and there's nothing wrong w that side of you i just acknowledge it

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Genuine question no judgement just trying to have a heart to heart with you here, do you believe the attraction to men is inherently feminine and that a man being attracted to another man is feminine in and of itself? Because that could obviously explain the attraction thing

been arguing on twitter for 3 days let me go #touchgrass

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i'm just trying to stress that not everyone's feelings on dating bisexual men are based in hatred or disgust and that you can still support without engaging sexually

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen The thing is no one has presented an actual argument for why that would be the case other than what you've mentioned that's the actual issue

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen doesn't mean they aren't physically attractive nor does it mean they are gross or unlovable

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen them having a vagina doesn't apply but finding out they are lgbt does, bc both trans men and bisexual cis men are lgbt and upon finding that out, it can change sexual attraction...

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i'm not saying they'd make bad partners or anything i'm just saying i don't agree w the narrative that if you aren't open to having sexual relationships with them then you just hate them and think their disgusting

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen It's...not offensive to call bisexuals queer. I'm just telling you that bisexuals being queer genuinely has no impact in their ability to enter monogamous heterosexual relationships for life. Most of them are actually in those because they rarely find same sex partners.

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen finding out information abt someone after can change sexual attraction, it doesn't have to be physical nor does it mean you hate them if that attraction changes

the best way i can describe it to you is if i saw a trans man, and i don't know he's trans but im attracted then find out he still has a vagina, am i now transphobic for not wanting him anymore ? i'd still be attracted to his face but the fact that he has a vagina wouldn't be okay for me bc i don't like vaginas. is that wrong ?

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen overlap, doesn't mean they are the same . if they were the same we'd both be bi or both be heterosexual

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i don't see an issue because it's true you literally just said it yourself they are fucking queer . you agree the B in lgBt stands for bisexual so why is it offensive when i say they are ??

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Dude...you keep bringing up how you're not "LGBT" and they are when in reference to bisexual men...as a straight woman. Do you really not see the issue there?

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen like we literally have different sexualities and that's okay, no one is saying it isn't but yall

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen if i'm not lgbt why do i have to open my dating pool to lgbt ppl to not be homophobic??? like what

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen being sexually attracted to someone ( or something they do ) doesn't mean you respect them and a lack of attraction doesn't mean you hate them

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Alright so if a bisexual man is attracted to both men and woman and women who are straight are attracted to men where exactly is the incompatibility in the relationship between a bisexual man and and a straight woman in regards purely to their sexualities?

literally no one said they were incompatible .. the point is you guys think straight women should disregard a man's attraction to other men to please ur feelings when in reality if i , as a straight woman saw a gay man and thought he was attractive, then find out he's gay i can still be attracted but it would obviously change the way i view the situation. and that doesn't mean i have hate towards him now or think he's disgusting... my point is just bc they ALSO like women doesn't mean women have to like them back or they hate them ?? and don't tell me it’s " rooted in homophobia " when in reality it just causes a loss of SEXUAL attraction which doesn't equal respect.

mind you i never said queer = alien i literally just said they are lgbt, never said anything was wrong w it. I just pointed out that's what they are and how im not😂 can you make ONE response without creating shit out of THIN AIR that i NEVER said??? 😭 like genuinely it's getting ridiculous

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen

yes but for some reason if you aren't lgbt ur sexuality and preferences can now be up for debate and moral questioning for not participating in sexual activity w them 😭 genuinely they are getting mad at us for what we like.. which is what they don't want done to them so im confused

@missguided_____ doesn’t this all just boil down to sexual preference and sexuality? like not tryna be rude or anything but their are some people that do and don’t date trans people and whichever you prefer that’s okay?

“I have sex with people I don’t want to because I’m a GOOD FUCKING PERSON”

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen a homosexual man likes one gender, that being other men. Bi sexual men like both genders. I don't see how pointing that out is homophobic

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen What seperates a homosexual man from a bisexual man?

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen i don't take it seriously bc ur trying to tell ME how I FEEL abt lgbt people because im open and accepting to them in every way BUT sexually. Then when i ask basic questions you try to deflect from the facts . Bi men are LGBT and that's ok .

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen Man you don't actually take this shit seriously and you want people to respect you treating human rights and discrimination like it's a fucking game when it's people's lives lock in for a sec and think about it

@AriAri1554504 @piffleprattle @thekonyjen that response right there was all i needed.. bc are they lgbt or not ??? you keep replying to me but can't answer the most basic question ?

@ilninixo @piffleprattle @thekonyjen For a moment I thought a thought actually crossed your head but then you disappoint me like this come on now