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@AvonandsomerRob Yes and no. Depends on car, engine, age, manner the mileage is racked up and history.

Is 100,000 considered high mileage on a car these days?

@AlexEdgerton The combination of screen, buttons and iDrive on higher spec F chassis BMWs is peak human/car interface

"Buttons are better, because I can use them even if I was blind" Yeah, good luck with that.

@gewoonmerels Pretty sure that happens at home regardless of him getting his way or not

☎️ Dan Ben je een politie agent van een meter of 2 groot en dan vind je het nodig om een vrouw van 1 meter 60 naar de grond te duwen en schoppen…. Zou hij dat thuis ook doen als hij zijn zin niet krijgt thuis 🤷

@AnnieHQ21 You think that's bad! Try telling a GP you'd rather deal with the pain of a sore knee instead of her prescribed antidepressant. Apparently, weaning off them "shouldn't be too bad"

What is it about GPs and statins? Can’t get a routine appointment for weeks but they chase relentlessly. In an otherwise totally healthy individual, a cholesterol score of 5.3 has triggered four text messages and three emails in the last two weeks? Why?

@abbieechels Worth having a rear dashcam. Would make great comedy clips with the right tune dubbed in

There was an accident on the motorway today and the police were closing the lane. I let 2/3 cars change lane and go in front of me to clear the road and the woman behind acted like I personally killed her started screaming and swearing at me for letting people go in front

@AvonandsomerRob @davidjohnbuild This is only for the short term. Once we're past tipping point of EV uptake, price per mile will be comparable to ICE.

@davidjohnbuild EV owners who charge from home pay 9p/Kwh overnight. These rates also apply at offices that have chargers for their employees. Average EV does 4 miles per kwh. Average EV battery is 70kwh. £6.30 for a full tank and almost 300 miles.

Is the vitriol directed at EV drivers motivated by jealousy that you can charge an electric car with 300 miles of range for less than £10?

@DrRebeccaTidy Two wrongs going on there. The guy, clearly a creep. Vegan latte, ridiculous. Decent men have no clue what women have to deal with, until they become girl dads!

Except I was so absorbed with my work that I didn't notice him until I got up & he was practically in my lap & I screamed & accidentally dropped my drink on him. Half a large vegan iced vanilla matcha latte with cream.

I was working from Starbucks for the air-conditioning, while my daughter was at gymnastics. It was an enormous room & it was empty, yet some random guy sat right next to me.

@mindofprospect @Sidequests77 @UtdZone14 @pacer142 AC on modern cars switches on and off via a clutch. Even when AC is on, that clutch may be disengaged so no extra fuel used. In the old days the AC pump was permanently on. At very low speeds wind resistance is negligible. Which means open window uses less fuel than modern AC

@Armaniiio @Sidequests77 @UtdZone14 @pacer142 It’s old data. AC on modern cars is very efficient, even more so on EVs

I find it funny when I see people drive with windows down in the heat. Do you think the people that designed the AC in your car are stupid? 🤣

@Sidequests77 @mindofprospect @UtdZone14 @pacer142 This is the deciding factor on which is more efficient

@mindofprospect @UtdZone14 @pacer142 You're both right and wrong. Low / city speeds = windows open is more efficient Above 50 MPH airo typically is due to aerodynamic benefits taking over extra fuel consumption for AC

@mindofprospect @pacer142 You're literally saving the planet. Your cold AC will help reduce global warming

@pacer142 People that buy convertibles do so knowing that they are a lot less fuel efficient than the regular version in this weather. When I had a convertible with the top down the AC was still on

@LockedAccountL @EmbracingTara That's fine, you can leave. That's your take. You also have the option to call out BS behaviour. You might just make things a tiny bit easier for the next person.

Throw a temper tantrum for 3 and a half hours and then walk out? Bad lesson then. Because what should be taught is if you don’t like what’s going on in the situation, you leave immediately. You don’t stay there to prove a point. Nobody cares. You only waste your own time and look like a fool.

I went to purchase a car yesterday, and they were so condescending and lied to me at least four times about both the car and the process (of which I was fully researched) that I wasted literally 3 1/2 hours of their time beating them down on the price and then I walked away anyway. They chased me to my car twice. Totally worth it. The lesson is, don't condescend to or lie to women (or anyone) to try to get a sale. I was fully prepared to purchase prior to that.

@peterrhague @Mcheitiheitison So where are the numbers for vehicle lifetime & usable range?

@Armaniiio @Mcheitiheitison Literally started this thread posting numbers

The reality of owning an EV. My 20 plate Hyundai Kona with over 70k miles, still has as much full charge range as when it was new. Battery degradation is minimal and the car has a “reserve” it enables as the vehicle ages. I will not need a battery replacement in the lifetime of the car. Fears of battery failure largely stem from the experience of the Nissan Leaf, which was an early attempt to make an affordable EV when the technology wasn’t quite up to it - so its range was short and lack of thermal management of the battery made it degrade over time. There is a meter on the dashboard that shows how much full capacity remains; sometimes unscrupulous dealers would reset the computer on second hand ones so they misreported the battery as perfect. This isn’t a risk with modern electric cars. They age well, and this means that you can buy with confidence on the used market - which is critical to wider adoption. We can’t all afford new cars, after all.

@ListerLawrence Bring this back

One thing that REALLY gets on my goat is the UK police force buying foreign cars. There are around 40,000 police vehicles on the road and the majority of them are built abroad! That’s approx £1.2bn going off-shore if they’re replaced every 3 years. It’s only a matter of time until we have BYD police cars… If I was in charge of the country the first thing I’d do is mandate that all UK emergency services must buy vehicles built in Britain. 🇬🇧 I mean how obvious is that to help our own economy, job market and above all pride?

@LockedAccountL @EmbracingTara Nope, she did great. I'm teaching my daughters enough car knowledge to be able to do the same thing should they come across someone like that

And this is why women shouldn’t do business. You took that way too personally. If you don’t like what’s going on, you can just walk out the door and say no thank you and still they didn’t get your money. Instead, you threw a tantrum for 3 1/2 hours and believe me everybody in that dealership had a very different perspective of what was going on and of you. You may think you have a victory here, but you really just looked like a fool.

@squashrambles @peterrhague @Mcheitiheitison I don't know, which is why I was asking. Details matter. Back up the statement with numbers, years/miles and kWh

@Armaniiio @peterrhague @Mcheitiheitison Where’s yours against EVs then?

@spicco05 What if you're someone who drives both forms on a regular basis? Or is it just opinions of those agreeing with you that matter?

EV drivers have been ICE drivers, they don’t need your outdated opinion.

@truthstreamnews To some extent, yes. But there will be mods available to block remote access once there's enough demand for it

So will used cars end up costing more than new cars because people will be trying to get the last vehicles that can’t be shut down remotely via software?

@peterrhague Define 'lifetime of the car'

@peterrhague @Mcheitiheitison 'Usable range' & 'entire life', two totally vague and meaningless statements. Details and numbers matter.

@Mcheitiheitison The degradation follows an S-curve, and slows down. The evidence both from driver experience and from people who have crunched the data is that cars will retain usable range for their entire life.

@bluesbreaker2 @cra46159 With smoked salmon... absofuknloootly

@cra46159 Yes and we should widen all roads as well. And subsidise avocado toast