Aspartame
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@xanax_75 @ushtar_i Likewise in Shkortull and Volpul we see the -ul suffix typical to Balkan Romance languages, and the /o/ shows up there from inherited /u/ is a feature of West Balkan Romance, not Albanian (it would be Shkurt-, not Shkort-).
A non-Albanian trend emerges precisely in this area.
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@illyriusx Because we don't have clear written sources that go back that far in our language and all those languages are barely attested only in other people's languages/scripts. Its a complex issue that can get solved but its no way near there yet, but its closer than its been.
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@AspartameDagger Were proto-Albanians primarily Illyrians or Daco-Thracian-like Moesians? Why is it so difficult to get a consensus on this and a final conclusion?
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@Vato_Valenti @k0tuz Thracians, Illyrians, and Triballians based on this mention as they more likely than not reflect Arrian's own 2nd century ad understanding of the balkans than Alexander's.
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@Vato_Valenti @k0tuz This speech comes from Arrian, who wrote his history on Alexander ~450 years after he events took place.
While the events its based on are mostly true (opis mutiny), the speech is a literary construct for dramatic effect.
We can't infer Alexander's opinion on-
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@k0tuz @Vato_Valenti Thanks for this, I wasn't aware that it also appears among Dacians. Seems it shows up in Moesia Inferior also among Dacians.

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@AspartameDagger @Vato_Valenti I wouldn't say Bato is a Dalmato-Pannonian strictly bro. Dan Dana encountered the name among Dacians in Olbia: researchgate.net/publication/32…
Batou the personal name, the Pannonians are an interesting case, I have no strict opinion on them, but it is very hard to define them.
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@Vato_Valenti unlike what we see in cases among Albanian leadership in last two centuries, Enver, Hashim, Kadri, Sali, all non-Albanian etymology names that political elites of Albanians held due to different cultural hegemonic influences etc
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@Vato_Valenti Majorly a belegis gava II descended people (potential vector for their Z5018) then triballi would have just been their cousins, probably at the border of Z5018/Z5017. The symbiosis with then ascendant Glasinac that leads to Dardani elites taking foreign names would not be-
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