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Athenian Stranger
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Athenian Stranger
@Athens_Stranger
I teach the Great Books of our tradition ||Excellence in education: Intro through PhD level || SubStack @AthensCorner
Katılım Aralık 2020
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@AncPhi One of the many problems of translations is that the more you work from them the more you see how they’re always inadequate precisely because you’re at the whim of the translator
Interpretation begins at the level of the original language of the author
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Just shut up about translations if you don't know the language and you don't have experience with translation.
(Feeding raw text into the woodchipper of AI doesn't count as translation.)
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@eademsententia The best part here is how I could wipe the floor with your face on the topic on my worst day, your best day, and also physically
But I realize your life is one of endless seething resentment b/c of exactly zero reach beyond the students stuck taking your silly little classes 😆
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@Athens_Stranger At least there's hope. How else would they learn the history of philosophy from charlatans that claim to be teaching philosophy.
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A good intro to “metaphysics” course would be 12 weeks along these lines:
— Lucretius: On the Nature of Things
— Plato: Phaedo
— Aristotle: Metaphysics 1.1-2; 12.6-7
— Thomas: ST I.1.1,2,3,5,8; II.2.3
— Kant: first Critique both Intros
— Heidegger: What is Metaphysics?
Athenian Stranger@Athens_Stranger
A good intro philosophy course to Plato and Aristotle world be a 12 week course along the following lines: — Aristophanes’s Clouds — Plato’s Apology, Crito, Phaedo & Symposium — Physics Beta — Metaphysics A & a Those are the minimums which intro students can build very much
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@greenloeb Malicious inclusion has been my experience
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Less by absence than by malicious inclusion. Saved myself $30 yesterday after looking Strauss up in a book on Francis Bacon and finding a deranged footnote approvingly marshaling Shadia Drury’s unhinged delusions against the “Straussian cult.”
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Looking for Strauss in a bibliography is a great way to quickly figure out whether a piece of secondary literature is in any way worth one’s time.
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@eademsententia Yea they’re definitely getting robbed, but not to worry because they will find their way to me
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@Athens_Stranger Well, I'll be teaching a metaphysics course next year, so pray for my students. I suppose they're getting the short end of the stick with me at the board😂
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@husafell_stone One Nietzsche’s more prominent themes in his notebooks is how short life is for men of depth and projects — that’s why I always tell people to learn how to look at less to see more because then within single sentences you can find more than most find in volumes
You’re good bro
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I have serious gap in my knowledge about ancient world, but I also feel drawn to music, and time is limited. What to do.
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Four programs, and still she left that period inside the parentheses. Shame on Hitz? No, shame on US.
Zena Hitz@zenahitz
I was a student in four different humanist grad programs (long story.) Only one student of all of those cohorts worked 9-5. It worked great for him. The rest of us worked the way most thinkers work: in fits and starts.
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@Athens_Stranger That's when he is disguised as a begger isn't it?
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In Homer, Odysseus is described as having a balding head of red hair
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@eademsententia Nah, sounds like you’re simply philosophically illiterate
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@Athens_Stranger That's not a metaphysics class, that's a history of metaphysics curriculum.
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@john_malone @WTSmith17 Yes that’s my point, Sylvester is a far more noble fellow than Zizek
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@Athens_Stranger @WTSmith17 I mean, say what you want about the tenets of Sylvester the Cat, Dude, at least he's got an ethos.
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I confronted world famous philosopher, Slavoj Zizek, on why he calls himself a communist when over 100 million people have died as a direct result of communism…
He couldn’t provide an understandable answer.
Either he is just a lot smarter than me, or this is all nonsense.
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@achieve_status I understand the sentiment and the depths of things is indeed in the surface of things, but then of course the onus is on you to provide a persuasive interpretation of that opening sentence—keeping in mind a few words he uses effectively receive entire chapters in the Metaphysics
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@Athens_Stranger More of a fan of not overanalyzing these books, nichomachean ethics specifically is not rocket science.
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In my first seminar on Aristotle’s Nicomachean Ethics in grad school, the professor walked in on the first day, read the opening sentence, and then said:
“Ok, now we will spend the rest of the semester attempting to understand what that means”
He was a truly amazing professor
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@WTSmith17 … but I realize how insulting that is to Sylvester
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Brian just taught an entire seminar on the topic encompassing of the broader theme, and he’s the only person I would study from on the specific topic of Thomas
For my part, I’m currently wrapping up a recording on the meaning and transformation of “reason” that addresses the topic according to “the ancients and the moderns” which I think you will enjoy. I very meticulously explore the meaning of “mind” in Plato and Aristotle and its significance for what we understand as “divine revelation” in human knowing in the context of this thing we call philosophy
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@realbriankemple @KnowsPascal @Athens_Stranger @PAHoyeck I am very interested in seeing you two interact on this issue. Have you written anything about the medieval conception of philosophy as handmaiden to theology?
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@realbriankemple @photizeipanta @KnowsPascal @PAHoyeck You wretch!!! Cutting me where I most easily bleed — my shiny bald bobblehead!!!
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@photizeipanta @KnowsPascal @Athens_Stranger @PAHoyeck If ever Athenian and I engage in mortal combat, it’ll be over this issue. He’s got more muscle, but I’ve got the hair.
Beautiful, thick hair.
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@dardanidae1 And if you read the Iliad carefully you will see where I’m correct
But seeing your fat face light in my comments is hilarious
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@Athens_Stranger You made a statement that was debunked based on the text. Just admit you were wrong and move on.
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It will be interesting to see who gets cast as Thersites so that we know what that clown Nolan thinks best represents the *weak and ugly* given what he thinks best represents the beautiful and the strong
Honestly it won’t be interesting since it’s already entirely uninteresting
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@dardanidae1 Now take a look at what you find in the Iliad
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@Athens_Stranger In the Odyssey, Bk 6, it says that he had thick and long curly hair. In Bk 1, this was a trait shared with Telemachus.
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@Athens_Stranger Any thoughts on the Spenglerian ideas of Culture-Civilization? This appears the most correct to me at a the moment.
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The word “civilization” was coined by the French in the 18th century, and in its original usage by the French it was never pluralized — there was only one civilization and it was that of the French people, all other peoples were barbarians
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