Atticist

Cruciform cathedrals make up a large cross-section of church architeture.

@proginosko @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano Now you are begging the question— that’s what’s in dispute.

@Atticist @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano All true enough, but hardly a defense of the original argument, which doesn't even get off the starting block.

Finishing up a review of this book for @RTSRFandP. 5000+ words... 😬 davenantinstitute.org/without-excuse

@proginosko @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano Hard to do— every argument seems to be incomplete. Hence why reviewers can always ask something more out a paper before acceptance. Perhaps one thing syllogisms do is present to dialoguers which premises need to haggled over and detailed.

@Atticist @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano Fine, then all that needs to be built into the argument. The point remains: as it stands, without further support for premise 2, the argument isn't going to do any useful work. Nobody would accept 2 who didn't already accept 3.

@proginosko @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano This is only true if you think the world does not evidence the qualities associated with being an effect. Indeed one might think a mutable and uneternal cosmos necessarily requires it be an effect.

@Atticist @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano Nobody here is talking about denying premise 1 or suggesting that premise 1 begs the question. As I wrote, "Since an effect has a cause by definition..." The problem with the argument, as I explained, is that *premise 2* begs the question.

@proginosko @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano If someone denies that an effect has a cause, in doing so they have not avoiding begging the question, but have indulged in a denial of basic logic.

@Atticist @Bryant728 @RTSRFandP @UPuritano An argument begs the question when one of its premises tacitly assumes its conclusion. Since an effect has a cause by definition, 2 assumes 3. No one would accept 2 who didn't already accept 3. Hence, it's not a good argument.

Beach pattern, bottom of picture is toward water

“Stare decisis” but with the history of philosophy, and since Plato issued his opinions first, we must all be Platonists.

Happy Mother’s Day to the mothers and no others.

@virginicus @Leesandersmyth Well, Health is the cause of health— but don't think there is a form for disease.

@Leesandersmyth Hey, @Atticist, does Plato agree that a thing can be its own cause?

@LearnGreek1981 The world needs more book readers not clock watchers

@Atticist im prolly missing the joke here, but what's wrong with buying kitchen clocks on amazon

Everything would have gone much better if Amazon had just stuck to selling books.

@unummagnumtotum You can say it. Barnes and Noble.

Was given a gift card to a large chain bookstore. Went to one of its locations. After several passes: found nothing.

@matthewmaccaull I think you mean the "have the grammar you do?"

“Philosophy of X” class ideas: of friendship: You have to make a friend and write about this of literature: you have to write a short story of politics: you have to write a constitution Others?

@Brotinus Body shots are rare?

An underrated side effect of Tinder is the reintroduction of physiognomy back into the culture

@Godward16 Well, this would just be brutal for most.

@bruceahuntjr Yes, monasteries are social institutions, that's why I specified without a monastery. So it seems belief in immortality does not extinguish social need for community.

@Atticist How about the ones that become monks and go to monasteries are the believers in their own potential for immortality.

It's not lonely at the top. It's lonely everywhere. In fact, all of social life, which is central to the understanding of mankind, could be explained as the incessant drive to eliminate loneliness through family and friends and work.

@bruceahuntjr What would the evidence for your position be? Would you become a monk without a monastery if you were granted immortality?

@Atticist Any evidence for any of that?

@bruceahuntjr This is untrue, for if we were granted immortality on the spot, we would still seek social society. Immortals are not hermits. Life is primary to death as the soul is to the body.

@Atticist It's all validation craving born from the fear of death.

@PhilosophiBooks I think wit is in full display in ancient philosophy, sometimes in philosophy itself, but often through indirect ways such as are recorded by gossipy bits of D. Laertius or Plutarch. Few contemporary philosophers have wit.

@Atticist Who in your opinion has 1? (preferably not "proofs that x" humour, altho if nothing else is available i'll take this too)

These are unacknowledged and therefore unappreciated traits in a philosopher: good sense of humor, attentive listener, and a good friend. Many "philosophers" lack 2 of the 3.