@CartoonsHateHer that dog just flipping the fuck out midway through a game of Guess Who
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Barnfield Monroe
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Husband walked past a woman and her pit bull today and she said "Sorry, my dog is super friendly but she's a shelter rescue and she is very aggressive toward men with hats and glasses."
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I love how the new slur for straight women is just a repurposed slur for gay men. really makes you wonder
celia@_celia_bedelia_
@CartoonsHateHer They’ve been calling me “semen drinker” because I made the mistake once of saying I do consensual sex with my husband
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@Krishan_A_Patel does that mean that women DO owe their attraction to men who posses the proper discipline? I don't think it makes sense to look at this through the lenses of 'owing' and 'earning' at all
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I essentially did looksmaxing through my fitness journey, and it rendered me eligible for romantic companionship. Men who are not short have agency over whether they are lovable or not, and women do not owe men who lack the proper discipline their attraction.
josh@meadandjuniper
Any way you cut it this also means that at least one gender is being dumb; either looksmaxxing is the wrong approach and young men somehow became massively out of touch with women, or looksmaxxing is on to something and young women just are that shallow Whoever it is cut it out
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@wine_ghost @default_friend yes, I don't think this is necessarily the case for Lindy West, but it is the case for a lot of ppl, and it feels like missing the point for everyone to be like "you deserve better!" when someone probably isn't going to do better (even if they 'deserve' to in some abstract way)
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@default_friend in think in "certain cases," nobody else wanting to be in a relationship with you is a reasonable risk to consider
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Unpopular opinion: I don’t think polyamory is the problem, I think entering arrangements you’re not comfortable with because you don’t think anyone else will be in a relationship with you is the problem.
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@CartoonsHateHer I find it weird how many people are assuming that she's somehow oblivious to how all this comes across rather than intentionally outrage baiting as she's done throughout her career (and the book can be an accurate account of her situation and she can still be outrage baiting)
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So here's the thing. Maybe all of us are completely wrong and she's misunderstood, but surely someone involved in the publishing of her book/interview told her this? I mean, for everyone to see it the same way, surely she has to understand why!
Spongebob SquareAss@thereisnojayjay
Girl are you sure
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@SimonCa00488810 @lionel_trolling ok, but if you want to make a point about legit criticism of Israel being shut down with antisemitism allegations why would you choose Pat Buchanan of all people? There must be someone Podhoretz has accused of antisemitism for being anti-Israel who isn't also a nazi
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@lionel_trolling It was not the best example to pick; however, he wasn’t an antisemite BECAUSE he criticized the 2006 bombing of Lebanon, whatever his ultimate motivations
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Yeah okay but Pat Buchanan is an antisemite
Ro Khanna@RoKhanna
You cheerled us into the war in Iraq. You called Pat Buchanan antisemitic for criticizing Israel's bombing of Lebanon in 2006. You are one of the loudest supporters for Netanyahu's war in Gaza. Your neocon ideology has done so much damage to America and people are on to it.
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@SkoomaBoofer right-wing version of those IN THIS HOUSE WE BELIEVE signs with all of the stuff from that tweet on it
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There was a time when this was the worst tweet I’d ever seen, but this is pretty much just this site’s median user now
taoki@justalexoki
what is the worst tweet of all time?
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@estherzelda0514 @CartoonsHateHer in this case I think the wife would rather have left the husband altogether, but didn't want to hurt him/didn't feel she could until he gave her 'permission' (not explicitly necessarily, but signalled something like 'I'll be sad if you leave, but I'll cope, I'll get through it")
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@estherzelda0514 @CartoonsHateHer I'm thinking of a particular case I observed where the wife was unhappy in the (previously monogamous) marriage and wanted to see other ppl, the husband was v obv not enthusiastic about this, but accepted it as less worse option than losing her completely
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I know she eventually came around, but i feel like anything sexual/romantic that initially makes you cry and feel intense dread is probably not for you and you should not do it.
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@estherzelda0514 @CartoonsHateHer I always wonder in these situations to what extent the partner who pushed for opening the relationship is just a cad enjoying having their cake + eating it, and to what extent they'd actually be happier fully ending the relationship, but their partner won't 'let' them in some way
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@estherzelda0514 @CartoonsHateHer - even if their partner would choose 'I'll stay but only if I can also sleep with other ppl' over losing them altogether?
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@CartoonsHateHer ikr, didn't even realise he could talk
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somehow i wasn't prepared for the last one
M1das@M1das_OW2
maybe the worst timeline of all rime
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@KeloidKrown @GringoStarr2011 @jemelehill In the full statement he did also say that he left the event early because he "was aware of the distress [his] tics were causing", so there was an acknowledgement of the hurt caused, regardless of his intention
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@GringoStarr2011 @jemelehill He said he was "mortified if anyone thought his tics were intentional or carry meaning". That's not even an acknowledgement of how harmful the word is, let alone an apology for the hurt it understandably causes.
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He should not apologize for his disability. But having this disability does not mean permanent immunity from the harm caused by what you say to people. The tone of his apology is off-putting and reads like: I left, what else do you want me to do?
Apologizing to MJB and Delroy Lindo is just the right thing to do. He can do that and educate people as well.
@ijbailey@ijbailey
I respect Jemele immensely and understand the position she and others are taking. But I can't agree with them. This is a disability, a neurological condition. The n-word is the most powerful and painful in the English language. Impact will always matter. But intent must as well.
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@asthasr @CartoonsHateHer and she's constantly having to thin about what everything she says or does might communicate to him about her receptiveness to a potential come-on
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@asthasr @CartoonsHateHer - because everything the guy has done to demonstrate interest is cautious, plausibly deniable stuff, so it just looms uncomfortably over every interaction the two have
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I wrote about what "incel" really means in a world where such a large swath of Gen Z are sexless, and more afraid of embarrassment and risk than motivated to have sex. Link in replies.
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@asthasr @CartoonsHateHer I think the signalling/counter-signalling still happens, and that's one reason I'm inclined to defend the guys being criticized for not approaching women irl - I think a lot of them are already being 'pre-rejected' before getting to the point of explicitly asking someone out
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The reality is that a lot of this was supposed to be learned early and in low-stakes environments. You're not supposed to be approaching women who have the possibility of being "grossed out" by it; there was always a lot of interaction before that point, where you are signaling and counter-signaling to each other, so that by the time you ask it's either a low-stakes rejection or a fait accompli.
My pinned thread talks about this... a lot of it was lost in the loss of embodied socialization.
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@asthasr @CartoonsHateHer annoyed/embarrassed at best and unnerved/grossed out at worst. If you know ahead of time this is probably how she'll feel, then aren't you being selfish (or even predatory) by asking anyway? but then if you follow this line of thinking you get chided for not even trying.
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@asthasr @CartoonsHateHer even if you're not the platonic ideal of an incel, and acknowledge that some woman somewhere might like you in a non-platonic way, if you're an unattractive man you know that most women's response to you asking them out is likely not to be glad but to wish that you hadn't
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