Darin Bracy

This is clearly 19th century thinking. No one in the Biblical narrative equated cursing with skin color. No where in the Biblical narrative is it race, it is nation, tribe and tongue, not skin color. "white and exceedingly fair and delightsome" That is a kill shot.

@stackerco I normally do not bring up these sections because folks get so charged up about it, but it is hard to look past this which is clearly 19th century thinking about how certain people had darker skin and the reasoning for it. They are trying to explain something they did not know.

Can you believe in the Book of Mormon without believing its message that God gave some people dark skin so they wouldn’t be attractive to white people?

@leosink_x @TraviXai Which is of course not Dwayne Johnson.

@BasicBaptistGuy @TraviXai the Rock obviously

Jesus: Upon this 'ROCK' I will build my church. Evangelicals:

@UnpolishedSaint @TraviXai Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, and not rebuilt. If temples are so important why did God destroy the one in Jerusalem?

@TraviXai Temples are Biblical

Christians: "Why do the mormons waste so much money on temples!?" Also Christians: *Buys a multi-million dollar building with hundreds of thousands of dollars in audio, video, lighting, lasers, musical instruments and equipment.*

@TraviXai Yeah, they are stupid as well.

@ThoughtfulSaint Consequences of not having an objective standard by which to point and say, this is what is written and will not change. You do not have that, in fact you openly reject it, continuous revelation, well here is that subjectivism smacking you right dead in the face.

Does this sort of thing cause confusion?

Why does 2 Kings 17 sound like it was pulled out of the Book of Mormon? Why does the Book of Mormon sound like it was pulled out of 2 Kings 17??

Who is going to tell him? This is what we call Theme stealing, when you see the same story lines in one text in another. It is not direct plagiarism, but the theme and outline of the text are much the same. This is much of the BOM numerous stolen themes from the OT/NT.

Here is another thing I do not understand about the LDS this adoration of men like Smith. Why do you make idols of men? Jesus says you cannot serve two masters, you will love the one and hate the other. Either you love Jesus or Smith, which is it? You cannot love them both.

God did not make me into a 9 to 5, go home and drink beer cut my grass watch sports and not care about anything else. There are times that I wish I could be that guy, just not give a crap about anyone other than me and my family. Oh well once more into the breech!

@JS9511606021086 If it makes sense to carnal sinful men, well that would be a warning light for me.

I don't write on here daily trying to convince myself or anyone else that The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints is true. I'm not trying to coerce anyone. I just like testifying what I know to be true. I feel like my religion is the only one that makes complete sense.

@ThoughtfulSaint Gosh, seems like I have read this somewhere? Oh that right the thing that you guys trash. This is the result of continuous subjective revelation, that is not grounded by anything. Mormonism is 2 Timothy 4:3-4 over and over again.

The fact that the family proclamation is now controversial shows we have a major problem in the church with active members who simply reject the clear teachings of the prophets and don’t understand our doctrines. And outsiders look at this division and are turned off as they see what looks like another bickering Protestant sect instead of a united covenant people. When so many of the members don’t even believe our prophet it looks weird when we are asking non members to. “If ye are not one… ye are not mine”

@VbcApologetics Well allow me to explain. See if you understood Hebrew Chiasms and how the translation went through a complex process and that Smith at the time was suffering from diverticulitis which effected his ability receive full revelation unless he tilted his head at 90 degrees. 🤡🤪

It is interesting to me that while LDS claim that "Many plain and precious things" were removed from the Bible, none of them can state when such alterations took place. For example, was the JST version of 50:27, and in particular the passage, "For this promise I give unto you, for I will remember you from generation to generation. And his name shall be called Joseph, and it shall be after the name of his father. And he shall be like unto you, for the thing which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand shall bring my people unto salvation.’” " removed before 33 AD, or after? If before, then Jesus lied when He said that not the smallest mark of the Law (Torah) could pass away until it was all fulfilled. If after, then Joseph lied, b/c we have quotes and commentary by Jewish Historian Philo (who died in 50 AD) showing Genesis 2-50, without the cited passage. Who lied? Jesus, or Joseph?

@Billyjones42391 @JohnLom61042395 Bread and wine is the Jewish practice you are literally requiring the use of bread and wine because a Jewish Rabbi used what He had used in each Passover. You are completely inconsistent and incoherent in your argumentation.

@JohnLom61042395 @BasicBaptistGuy Jesus himself is the Passover. We don’t follow Jewish practices. Everybody had a hard stance on this until Baptists came around.

@Billyjones42391 @JohnLom61042395 Those are not commands. You are interjecting a command into a non communicable sentence You don’t add context into a text to make it say what you want it to say Jesus was participating in the Passover which He changed from a remembrance of the Exodus to a remembrance of the cross

@BasicBaptistGuy @JohnLom61042395 “Jesus took bread” “Fruit of the vine” means wine. Can’t help you there if you believe elsewhere. Darin, I thought you were sola scriptura? Stick to it, if you are.

@Billyjones42391 @JohnLom61042395 Umm I want you to exegete that from this text. I don’t see anything that says you shall use bread you shall use wine, in fact it says fruit of the vine which could be tomato juice.😉

@BasicBaptistGuy @JohnLom61042395 Jesus Himself in Matthew 26.

@Billyjones42391 @JohnLom61042395 Where is does it command that? Where do the scriptures say you shall or shall not when it comes to the elements of the Supper?

@JohnLom61042395 @BasicBaptistGuy The scripture never says communion needs to be unleavened or leavened bread. The church has done both. However scripture is clear it needs to bread and wine.

@Billyjones42391 @BIGKLDS You can feel the leading of the Spirit, but you should always test whatever that feeling is. Anything feeling that is contradictory to scripture should be rejected.

@BasicBaptistGuy @BIGKLDS You don’t believe that you can feel the power of the Holy Spirit?

A guy in our Elders Quorum today said he once visited a Baptist Church and had a “warm feeling…” If he had told that to the Protestants at that Baptist Church at the time, they would have shook the whole “heart is deceitful” “don’t trust your feelings” thing real fast…