@Deffusible @s_bentall @RichardBentall @brexitblog_info I don't normally use my professional account for political purposes but your failure to understand maths that most 10 year-olds can grasp really could not be ignored.
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Prof_Richard_Bentall_psychologist
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Prof_Richard_Bentall_psychologist
@BentallProf
Scientist doppleganger of @richardbentall, researching social determinants of mental health, clinical interventions for psychosis, delusions & irrational belief
Katılım Nisan 2020
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@s_bentall @RichardBentall @brexitblog_info So, according to you, the UK should be, at least, £3T better off than any Eu nation if we'd of stayed in.
Have you any idea just how ridiculous that is, and how stupid it makes you sound?
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“How do you kick start your economy by aligning yourselves with the slowest growing economies in the advanced World?”
Andrew Neil quickly demolishes the feeble remainer mantra that there’s anything to be gained from Starmer’s EU reset.
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@Deffusible @s_bentall @RichardBentall @brexitblog_info The amount is about £42 bn (and that's the lowest estimate because some estimates of lost GDP are as high as 8%).
Apparently, you weren't very good at maths at school.
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@Deffusible @s_bentall @RichardBentall @brexitblog_info It really is impossible to underestimate the IQ of Brexiters.
The amount is £3T x 0.04 x .33.
This should not be hard.
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@Deffusible @wh500w @brexitblog_info When we were in The EU we had no trade barriers for goods of any kind for 30 rich nations (EU+EEA) on our doorstep.
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@wh500w @brexitblog_info We have trade barriers with every country we trade with.
You make things to 'their' standards or you don't sell them, you complete 'their' important paperwork or your goods don't enter their country.
The same goes for items coming into the UK.
So your argument is what exactly?
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@bjames280961 @Deffusible @s_bentall @wh500w @brexitblog_info Wrong: The UK only has 2 FTAs with countries that the EU doesn't (Malaysia and Brunei). The EU has better FTAs with India, Australia, New Zealand and Japan. It also has an FTA with MERCOSUR (most of South America) which we don't.
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@Deffusible @s_bentall @wh500w @brexitblog_info Just done a rough calc. Post-Brexit, the UK has done trade deals with circa 1/3 of the world, and the EU has no FTA arrangements with any of it.
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Prof_Richard_Bentall_psychologist retweetledi
I've been to France. Portugal. Across Europe.
People aren't hustling 70 hours. They're having dinner at 9pm with families.
Walking to the bakery on Tuesdays. Living.
And they're fine. More than fine.
The hustle narrative is an American export. It's not a law of nature.
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@MarkVipond It's not nonsense - its based on a very detailed NBER study - but your graph is.
It is egregious cherry-picking to compare the UK to the two worst performing economies in the EU. If one of my students did this, they would fail.
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This is, was and will remain to be the most demonstrably nonsensical claim.
Carl Bildt@carlbildt
Brexit has made the 🇬🇧 economy lose 6-8% of its GDP according to new studies. That’s three times defence spending. Huge loss.
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Prof_Richard_Bentall_psychologist retweetledi
Not a single Brexit dinosaur has ever been able to explain how increasing trade barriers helps the UK grow GDP.
Only reply they have left now is 'but..but..Germany..'
As if that's somehow relevant.
What a bunch of economically illiterate 🤡🤡
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@HarryDecote @AEHALL1983 @carlbildt It's based on a completely credible economic analysis by NBER in the United States.
It also accords with what most people are experiencing. Seriously, does our economy look healthy to you?
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@AEHALL1983 @carlbildt What's depressing is the number of people who treat this as fact and quote away . There's a lot of Pro Remain posts on X chipping away to create an anti brexit under current
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Weapons grade BS from @carlbildt
This figure is a pure fantasy that assumes British growth would have skyrocketed without Brexit and would be way above all EU countries.
Those people pushing this nonsense deserve extreme ridicule derision, and mockery. Absolut skitsnack Carl
Carl Bildt@carlbildt
Brexit has made the 🇬🇧 economy lose 6-8% of its GDP according to new studies. That’s three times defence spending. Huge loss.
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@MarcusDromgoole @AEHALL1983 @carlbildt @julianHjessop It's not excellent. Julian has a long history of egregious cherry-picking (comparing the UK only to the two worst performing EU economies) so is not an honest comentator.
Someone who did that in my business would never get their work accepted.
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Prof_Richard_Bentall_psychologist retweetledi
If you're a Brexit economic impact denialist at this point just block me please. Or reply with your denial and I'll block you. It's so damaging to Britain and such a sign of incapacity for self reflection that I'm not willing to entertain it any more. So sad.
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🔵 @jonsopel to Jenrick, “It was about personal ambition!”
“You were a Brexiteer when Boris... You said it's a shame that Liz Truss is still in the Conservative Party- but you voted for her budget. And now, when the Tories are languishing in the polls, which they most certainly are, you've gone to the party that is leading in the polls, and you've got shadow treasury spokesperson job.”
Jenrick gets angry, “I'm not gonna take any lessons from the man who said that Peter Mandelson was a class act, when he was appointed as our ambassador to Washington.
#bbcqt
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@julianHjessop Comparing the UK with France and Germany, the two worst performoing economies in the EU, is naked cherry-picking.
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ps. the thread below explores these issues in more depth, with some funky charts... 🤓
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Julian Jessop@julianHjessop
My 'unicorn' chart posted yesterday (👇) has prompted a lot of interest but also some objections. I can't reply individually to everyone, but here are some of the more sensible questions - with my answers... 🧵 (I suggest you read all 10 before asking any more!)
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I see the usual suspects (and some new ones!) are again pushing last year's NBER "working paper" which claimed that Brexit has already reduced UK GDP by as much as 8%... 🤔
ICYMI, this figure is derived by comparing growth in UK GDP per capita with the *averages* of a wide range of other countries with many different characteristics.
Any UK underperformance since 2016 is then attributed *solely to Brexit*. Other factors which may have impacted different economies in different ways over this period are ignored - notably Covid and the energy crisis.
Moreover, these studies gloss over the fact that growth in UK GDP per capita has not been far short of that in France and better than that of both Germany and Canada (which doesn't fit the narrative!).
Finally, the results fail a simple smell test. If the UK economy had grown by another 8% since 2016 it would have been the fastest growing major economy in Europe by a long way.
UK growth would also not have been far behind that of the US, even though the US economy has benefited from a large fiscal stimulus, relatively low energy costs, and an AI boom.
This is all obviously daft.
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@julianHjessop @michael_wheller @nberpubs You think anyone is wrong of they produce analyses with results that you don't like.
In psychology we call this motivated reasoning.
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@michael_wheller @nberpubs It is non-partisan. I just think its wrong!
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@julianHjessop @s_bentall @michael_wheller That's not a convincing debunk. The fact that two completely different methodologies get comparable results, that these results are plausible (just a 0.7% loss of annual growth = 8% over 10 years) and that others get similar results should tell you something if you were honest.
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Happy to debunk the 6% too..
It's based on data which suggests that companies who traded more with the EU did relatively badly, which can partly be explained by the relative weakness of the EU economies... 🤷♂️
They also focus on the initial impact of Brexit uncertainty, then acknowledge that this has already faded!
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@julianHjessop @s_bentall All you've done is defended what is blatant cherry-picking, and then you've blocked me (twice) and anyone else who has challenged you.
You clearly have no interest in an honest debate about the impact of Brexit on the UK economy - a typical Brexiter with a total lack of honesty
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@s_bentall I've already answered these points - many times! 🙄
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It would be really great if a few more friends on X completed this survey to help us with our research on political ideologies.
Prof_Richard_Bentall_psychologist@BentallProf
1/2 Dear friends on X. Colleagues and I are pilot testing questionnaire measures of political ideology in preparation for a large social science project on the nature of mass belief systems. Our 15-minute pilot is ethically approved by Sheffield U. Next post provides the link
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@penelopepriest I think I can say at this point that one of our longterm goals is to find what makes pathological beliefs (associated with psychosis) different from other kinds of extreme beliefs (political and religious ideologies).
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@BentallProf Is there a way of being kept informed about the progress of this research? Also, I have feedback on the q'naire...a few design faults, imo, but I've completed and shared.
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Dear friends on X.
Colleagues and I are pilot testing questionnaire measures of political ideology in preparation for a large social science project on the nature of mass belief systems. Our 15-minute pilot is ethically approved by Sheffield U.
Next post provides the link
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@penelopepriest When we have enough data, I'll post a thread on here explaining what we hope the scales are measuring and which work best. Selected scales will go through further piloting before included in a national survey of belief systems (political, religious, conspiracy, delusional).
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Take part of interesting research on the nature of mass belief systems.
Prof_Richard_Bentall_psychologist@BentallProf
1/2 Dear friends on X. Colleagues and I are pilot testing questionnaire measures of political ideology in preparation for a large social science project on the nature of mass belief systems. Our 15-minute pilot is ethically approved by Sheffield U. Next post provides the link
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