Bobby
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The million dollar question.
By what right do elected politicians deny the votes of Scots citizens?
It's a central issue in the election.
Paulie🏴@Paulie8Trebles
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@MaxFRobespierre @PoliticoForYou Logic would say it has to be addressed in a WM election.. and has to prove popular support. So over 50% of the votes going to pro indy parties in a WM election would make sense as a trigger for another referendum in the future.
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@BobbyInTheNorth @PoliticoForYou So what is the requirement?
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BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨
Wes Streeting tells Scottish voters they’ve had quite enough democracy for one day in perfect party political broadcast for the SNP.
LBC@LBC
"The country has had enough of chaos!" Wes Streeting rules out Scottish independence, telling @Lewis_Goodall that there will be no fresh referendum even if the SNP get a majority.
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@gordymeister @themajorityscot Exactly.
Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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@themajorityscot Labour manifesto for last GE included no new referendum
Are folk suggesting they deny that democracy?🤔
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The UK isn't a 'union' and it isn't 'voluntary' either. It's a unitary state with devolved administrations. If you want to break it up, get a majority of MPS in Westminster, not in your pretendy parliament.
Lauren Oxley@LaurenOxleyx
The contempt shown towards Scotland and our democratic wishes is off the charts. Some “voluntary union of equals” eh?
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@Dorothy90237074 @Brown666W @weecass1888 Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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@Brown666W @weecass1888 Even Scotland’s favourite rag, the Daily Record, is now printed in England and it still can’t see the damage done to Scotland by the union.
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We don’t have a Scottish press and media unfortunately. We have someone else’s, which is why they have been quite comfortable going along with mandates being trampled on. They are part of it.
Rex Kwon Do@RexKwonDo_
The Scottish press and media should be screaming about this from the rooftops, as should every political party standing for election to Holyrood. Streeting is telling Scotland that Westminster doesn't care how we vote, we'll do as we're told. Democracy means nothing to them.
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@bigbenn1e Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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Democracy dies on LBC !
Straight from Westminster’s mouthpiece, Wes Streeting !
Well Scotland, will you take a telling, and do as your told by Streeting ?
LBC@LBC
"The country has had enough of chaos!" Wes Streeting rules out Scottish independence, telling @Lewis_Goodall that there will be no fresh referendum even if the SNP get a majority.
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@mick_tagg @KennyFarq A majority of voters going pro-indy parties in a Westminster election (it's a reserved matter). Say 55% of people voted for SNP / Greens returning 50+ seats to WM.. parliament would struggle to say Scotland wasn't ready to be asked again.
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@KennyFarq What, then, is your suggestion for those wishing that outcome to consider?
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Does anyone honestly believe that by voting SNP on May 7 they will see Scotland gain independence by 2028?
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@ChrisMcEleny @KennyFarq It took the UK 4 years to even begin to fully unpick a much looser union with the EU.. how on earth could Scotland be decoupled from the UK in 18 months given the depth of integration?
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@KennyFarq No, the referendum is 2028, assumedly independence day would be 18 months after that.
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@Fergie_CJ @MikeStewart79 This whole "ruled by" talk undermines your argument. Scotland has a strong voice through Westminster and a devolved administration to manage the majority of its affairs.
Scotland isn't ruled by England. Saying so just sounds silly.
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@BobbyInTheNorth @MikeStewart79 And do you also think USSR countries benefited from that? Why do you think Norway doesn't want to be ruled by Sweden as one greater Scandinavia? Get off your bloody knees.
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👇🏼👇🏼 Scottish Nationalist - sell me independence with facts. Is anyone willing to take the challenge ?
#SNP
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@Brown666W Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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Another English media mistake is to assume that Nos and fence sitters will be okay with being lectured by this colonial tit.
@GinaDavidson@ginadavidsonlbc
Unsurprisingly Streeting's statement causing outrage in pro-independence circles. Scottish Green former leader Patrick Harvie said: “Labour is showing complete contempt for Scotland and our democracy... [it] isn’t up to Streeting or Starmer, it is up to the people who live here"
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@Austin0z81 @wesstreeting @LBC Because the SNP campaigning at Holyrood on independence is like your local councillors campaigning on going to war.. it's not in their remit.
Labour have a mandate to block an indyref until up to 2029.
57.5% of Scots voted for no more indyref in 2024.
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English MP @wesstreeting was on @LBC attacking Scotland’s NHS. Doctors are on strike in England - again. He also said Labour will block the democratically elected Scottish government from implementing its manifesto. Labour think it’s acceptable to ignore Scottish voters. #VoteSNP
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@DickWinchester Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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After the great news from Hungary and its realignment with the EU, I now look forward to a pro independence majority at Holyrood and Scotland rejoining the EU regardless of what that mini Orban Wes Streeting says ....
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@vkgscotland1 Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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There must be a legal route that we can take.
WM citing issues created by WM as a reason to for saying No, is not democracy.........it's a dictatorship.
LBC@LBC
"The country has had enough of chaos!" Wes Streeting rules out Scottish independence, telling @Lewis_Goodall that there will be no fresh referendum even if the SNP get a majority.
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@bellacaledonia Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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The end days of the Starmer project, and of Sarwar's leadership look increasingly desperate and colonial twitter.com/LBC/status/204…
LBC@LBC
"The country has had enough of chaos!" Wes Streeting rules out Scottish independence, telling @Lewis_Goodall that there will be no fresh referendum even if the SNP get a majority.
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@bearsden_bhoy @mcarle17 It's not about the English deciding.
UK govt have a mandate from the Scottish people not to hold an indyref this parliament.
Holyrood elections don't have a bearing on that as it's not a devolved matter.
There's no evidence most Scots want to be asked again so soon.
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@BobbyInTheNorth @mcarle17 I’m glad you think the English should be allowed to decide whether we are allowed independence or not
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Not an SNP supporter but young Wesley here demonstrates why I'll continue to vote for pro Indy parties at every single election, until I no longer have people like him having any material say in my day-to-day life.
LBC@LBC
"The country has had enough of chaos!" Wes Streeting rules out Scottish independence, telling @Lewis_Goodall that there will be no fresh referendum even if the SNP get a majority.
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@StephenGethins Pro indy parties have never won 50%+ of the vote. That's the only real clear mandate for a second indyref so soon after the last one.
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So are we doing this on Westminster votes now? Not what Labour said when the SNP won majorities at the three previous Westminster elections. Labour running scared of giving people in Scotland a say on their own future. Make it #BothVotesSNP in May and an end to Westminster chaos
Simon Johnson@simon_telegraph
Streeting the latest in a series of senior Labour people I have heard arguing the party has a democratic mandate not to allow another referendum. Party won 37 of 57 Westminster seats in Scotland in 2024 on a manifesto that ruled out an independence vote
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@Lairdysnr Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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Hey Scotland…
You’re not allowed a referendum. No way. No how. Not ever.
How’s that for colonisation?
LBC@LBC
"The country has had enough of chaos!" Wes Streeting rules out Scottish independence, telling @Lewis_Goodall that there will be no fresh referendum even if the SNP get a majority.
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@Christ_IntLaw @ScotNational Independence is a reserved matter. Holyrood elections can't be decide indy.
In the 2024 WM election, 57.5% of Scotland voted for anti-indyref parties. Streeting's govt has a mandate from Scotland to reject an indyref until about 2029.
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@ScotNational It is none of Wes Farage or Nigel Streeting's business. You have a right to self-determination.
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Labour has been accused of 'sticking two fingers up' at Scots after Wes Streeting said the UK Government is not going to allow a second referendum even if the SNP win a majority #Echobox=1775998880-1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">thenational.scot/news/26014333.…
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