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@jasonomahony We already did that cheap populist stunt once, an comisiun an snip nua

If we set up an Irish doge to find savings in public spending to fund a very big cut in fuel Taxes we would run out of popular things to cut very quickly.

@jacknolan__ so likewise a haulier who went out on his own is still a worker Ireland achieved peasant proprietorship of land in the 1800s since then our farms are owned by ordinary workers (the majority of which need 2dn jobs to survive)

@jacknolan__ well yes, the idea that a self employed trades person on a site alongside a directly employed one both doing the same job for the same rate are in different economic classes is daft

Ah yes, farmers, self-employed hauliers, and small-businesspeople. All famous examples of the Irish working class…

@Annie_deBhal @SiobhanCon73085 it kinda suggests you're not overly familiar with the economics of Irish agriculture. 60 acres was a big farm in the 1950s its not now. Like theres a reason PBP and sinn fein the main left parties are supporting them

@Breandn @SiobhanCon73085 That does not change anything.

If one more idiots calls these gombeens the working class, I swear… No they’re not.

@Annie_deBhal by your logic self employed trades people aren't working class. thats just not how it works farmers own our land but were still not bourgeoise, marxists never dismissed peasants the way you are hauliers and hire men own the tools of the trade, its like owning a hammer

@Breandn So by definition not working class. Working class means working for a wage for those who own the means of production. Working class does not mean everyone who’s working.

@Annie_deBhal @SiobhanCon73085 no one with 60 acrees has 8 john deeres 60 acres is a one or two tractor farm

@SiobhanCon73085 People with 60 acres and 8 John Deeres are not working class. The people they are blocking from getting to their waged jobs are working class. Hope this helps.

@eamonn_kelly1 @EO_Halloran their demand for a fuel cap is a left wing one

@EO_Halloran I think you're confusing these protesters with the often irrational leftists. These are quite clear on what they want and quite rational, and government was refusing to engage with them on the totally irrational position that they only engage with organizations.

Its frightening thinking about the media environment a lot of these protesters exist in. Their opinions and feelings come from online hysteria mixed with half truths that give them revolutionary complexes that makes them completely impossible to engage with #fuelProtest

@EO_Halloran i dunno seems to me they're just annoyed by the reality of their fuel bills going up massively and the fact it'd be impossible for them to up their prices to cover the difference, more than anything they saw online

@gunnerineirinn @leebonnie2707 objectively false the protest is actually mostly ag hire men, who do all the big jobs for multiple farmers because its not economically viable for a farm to have massivly expensive equipment they only need once a year.

@leebonnie2707 not all farmers are working class and that’s a fact. the majority out protesting own multiple tractors, huge amounts of land, hire their own employees who are working atm, and can afford to take time off themselves. the working class farmers aren’t protesting, they’re working.

Anyone in rural Ireland giving out about farmers and their equipment should go into their local pub and tell their neighbours, cousins, uncles and aunts who farm that they’re not working class. Let us know how you get on.

@leebonnie2707 glad to know I'm apparently bourgeois because I've a few acrea and a farm that isn't enough to live on without a second job

@jasonomahony thats nothing new you have people complaining about the social welfare xmas bonus every year

I’ve noticed a trend of people objecting to tax because they don’t like specific spending on overseas aid, refugees, Ukraine etc. That can apply to dole, pensions, medical cards, farm subsidies too. If we are all allowed tick areas of spending we don’t want our taxes to fund…

@neonjazzpe5536 @TullamoreJew_ not at all no. my point was dismissing them for having tractors when the job requires one is stupid

Learning today that its middle class to use a ~€500 bicycle but working class to own multiple ~€20'000 hauliers

@GarethNotGarth tax cuts for massive companies, putting corporate landlords first and assisting us imperialism all clearly right wing

@Breandn No you didn’t. I pointed out how none of those were, can you not read?

The left has always hated farmers. In their eyes they own land and are rich. We are seeing that hatred come out now, they can’t wait for the army to get violent with them.

@GarethNotGarth i literally just did can you not read

@Breandn We do not have a right wing government. If we did you’d be able to name one non left wing policy. But you can’t, because we have a left wing government.

@GarethNotGarth @ThomNolan thejournal.ie/budget-2026-4-… REITS act 2014, gave funds massive tax cuts and government has refused to ban them scince

@Breandn @ThomNolan What tax cuts? US has used Shannon for decades. What was the policy introduced for landlords? You can’t answer the question.

@CianOConcubhair how much do you think a truck driver or farmer makes in ireland? anyway worker is defined by relationship to capital not income level

@Breandn Or, possibly, there are classes of people who engage in work who are not working class You know Middle class workers like me And wealthy peasant farmers And high-income self-employed truck drivers JFC you're just regurgitating Bertie Ahern style thatcherite bs

Was it a working class protest when truck driver striking were central to the military coup that overthrew the Allende Government in Chile?

@GarethNotGarth whereas the right wing government are who the protests are against

@GarethNotGarth except bpb and sinn fein, the left parties that are in the Dáil both support the protest

@GarethNotGarth @ThomNolan tax cuts for massive corporations, letting US imperialist use Shannon airport, letting corporate landlords control the rental market. just to name a few

@ThomNolan Tell me one single non left policy which has been introduced in the last decade.