Blue Print Guy

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd Name calling too! Classic.

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd You wouldn't understand Thomism if it struck you in your undersized head.

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@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd You’re counting the angels dancing in the head of a pin. And you misunderstand me, I’m laughing at you, I’m not bothered by this, at all. I’ll add it to my “stupid complaints made about the Book of Mormon” list I use when teaching it. It’s great!

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd Now we're at the stage of "nu uh, no way, nu uh" denialism. Mormon crash outs are hilarious. Your canned rebuttals didn't work because they don't apply. You don't know the history of Bible translation, and neither did Smith, so you don't know how little you know. Rage away LOL

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd You strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. You seriously think those verses in the Book of Mormon are based on 1John 5? How ridiculous. This is nothing more than intellectual navel gazing. Your argument is a castle built on nothing more than your pride and hubris.

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd So blaming a comma on a copy editor is irrelevant, unless you want to blame him for specifically arranging the phrases in Nephi, twice, to match the KJV specific Trinitarian formula in 1 John. Lol

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd All punctuation was put in by the publisher Grandin—without input by Joseph Smith or anybody else according Grandin who described the text a one continuous run on sentence. Joseph Smith wasn’t involved AT ALL in those decisions. This is well known and not disputed.

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd That you have no idea what we're talking about is why I can't take Mormons seriously. It isn't "just a comma", but a specific point of contention about creating a Trinitarian proof text. The inclusion of the comma in Nephi tells us Smith didn't receive a translation, he copied.

@interesting_aIl This works until the bolt is higher than the links are wide. Then the moment the pressure comes off they all fall down below the height of the bolt and you're spinning air.

This wrench eliminates an entire toolbox! 🤯

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd Joseph truly had an amazing library at his disposal.Where did he get it from? It certainly wasn’t in the Palmyra library (we have the list and Joseph’s family weren’t members anyway). There was NO punctuation in the original manuscript—at all. So you’re griping about a comma?

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd Again, not talking about Isaiah. 1 Nephi 11:27 and 3 Nephi 11:27 match the late interpolation of the Johanneum Comma from 1 John 5:7-8 to make the Trinity stand out more explicitly. Erasmus in the 16th century included the comma after excluding it due to no Greek source.

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd The earliest known manuscript of Isaiah is 125 BC (from the Dead Sea scrolls), and is virtually identical to the Bible today. The “scribal additions” you reference are theories. It amazes me how much credibility people give to this treating these theories as proof of something.

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd It can't predate scribal additions it directly copied

@Matthew_T_Lowe @UncommonYield @xuu @InterpreterFnd Not the issue being discussed, but thank you for sharing your Ignorance.

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @xuu @InterpreterFnd Zero evidence for the enormous cities with synagogues and sophisticated architecture Zero “fine steel” for the weapons, armor, tools, etc Zero chariots Zero elephants

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd You’re the one who used the word “forgeries.” And unless you have a novel definition for that word, yes you are complaining that Nephi copied chapters from Isaiah.

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd I don't know why I bother sometimes. You think I'm talking about quoting. I'm not. I haven't once said so. I haven't implied so. You're either stupid or lying.

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd Well that’s the one you brought up. We’re taking about the time period of the language used in the text, and that was your, frankly pathetic, rebuttal.

@CA_Blue_Print @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd You could ignore all of Isaiah and all of my complaints would remain because simply quoting Isaiah isn't the issue

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd In 2 Nephi, Nephi TELLS us he’s going to prove that Jesus is the Christ by using 3 witnesses: his brother Jacob, Isaiah, and then his own witness. He then proceeds to do exactly that. Your complaint is really, really, really irrelevant.

@ChemBearEsq @UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd You act as if we don’t know about the Isaiah chapters found in the Book of Mormon, seriously? Nephi TELLS us he’s about to quote Isaiah, and then does, what’s your beef with it?

@UncommonYield @xuu @Matthew_T_Lowe @InterpreterFnd We provide evidence which you ignore in the most pathetic ways possible. You’re a troll and nothing more.

@CA_Blue_Print @xuu @Matthew_T_Lowe @InterpreterFnd What? There are no archaeological or historical evidence these things are reall Y’all only appeal to emotions not facts

@UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd lol

@CA_Blue_Print @InterpreterFnd No proof to any of it or any people or places in the BOM All a fabrication

@UncommonYield @xuu @Matthew_T_Lowe @InterpreterFnd Show me any source that refutes the EVIDENCE. It’s the evidence that matters not the source. Attacking the source rather than the evidence is a logical fallacy. It’s called ad hominem.

@xuu @Matthew_T_Lowe @CA_Blue_Print @InterpreterFnd Show me a non LDS source that says this

@UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd Those were all believers, not antagonists. There is a major difference. There’s no reasonable doubt that Joseph had plates of some kind, plus there were other artifacts he possessed which weren’t under the same restriction: the sword of Laban, the Urim & Thumin, the Liahona, etc.

@CA_Blue_Print @InterpreterFnd Hundreds of people killed themselves the Heavens Gate cult and with Peoples Temple - facing death is frankly not convincing What is convincing is ancillary sources proving the voracity of the BOM when there is none. And don’t say the alter with NHM, that could mean many things

@UncommonYield @InterpreterFnd Then what was it that at least 19 people other than Joseph Smith saw, felt, and examined? 5 of whom became enemies to JS, left the church & STILL testified they saw the plates? One of those 5 had a gun held to his head & told to deny it or they’d blow his brains out & refused.

@CA_Blue_Print @InterpreterFnd Plate’s are not real my guy

@ChemBearEsq @pioneerpitstop @RealMattFradd Wrong. He was in the Iowa territory and voluntarily returned two days before he was arrested. The gun was came from a friend who knew the guards wouldn’t protect him. The “shootout” was with 150-200 armed mobocrats, not the prison guards who left them alone in an unlocked jail.

@CA_Blue_Print @pioneerpitstop @RealMattFradd No, your lies are humorous Smith fled to the river, was intercepted, and submitted rather than fight expecting the governor to protect him like a fool. Then once in jail, he smuggled in guns, had a shootout, got scared, jumped from a window, and died in the mud.

Out NOW: Catholic apologist, Joe Heschmeyer joins me to absolutely DESTROY Mormonism (in a nice way).