This is outrageous.
Iran is openly firing cluster munitions at civilians.
Not a word from the international media.
No outrage. No UN condemnation.
International law seems to exist only to target Israel — not protect it.
Endless hypocrisy.
Shame.
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg And what terrorism is coming out of the west bank exactly? It's run by the collaborator entity the PA. I'll wait for the justification of all the deaths there.
@Cailca@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg Yes, people are more and more fed up with constant terrorism. They expect people, who want to have their own sovereign peaceful state to show that they are actually willing and capable of having one.
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg & most countries have a hierarchy of racism within their own religion? Given most countries arent defined by their religion I'd love to see your proof of that statement. Israel is exceptional in lots of nefarious ways. For one it enjoys billions of US aid with seemingly no rules
@Cailca@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg I'm pointing out the huge difference between "given contraceptives" and "sterilised", the latter being something permanent.
No, I'm not denying a hierarchy or racism. That exists in Israel too, like in most societies/countries.
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg You can interpret it as temporary sterilisation especially given the major point is the complete lack of consent not the length of time they were sterilised for. Pro Zionists have some of the most ridiculous semantic walkabouts to cover the most obvious nasty shit 🇮🇱 does
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg Wow you must do yoga to be able to stretch your logic that muvh, they didn't protest, they rioted. They didn't claim he didn't do it, they celebrated the fact he did, he didn't get a judicial process & he was made a celebrity because of it all, and that's not socially indicative?
@Cailca@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg "guilty" is after a court/judge says so ;-)
In a democracy with enough freedom you'll have people protest any and all things. That doesn't speak for the whole culture on those things, only on the freedom and diversity.
@HenMazzig Precisely, that is why this building is like this. You must think we're idiots. Everyone knows you started this, noone believes the lies about why America joined you and it's not Iran's fault that you placed military targets in residential areas using your own population as HS
This is the destruction of an Israeli home from just one cluster bomb from the regime in Iran.
No country would put up with this happening to its civilians’ homes on a daily basis.
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg And curiously, ISIS has only attacked Israel once, and when they did, they issued a public apology saying it was a mistake.... iSIS apologised to Israel FFS. Tell me that's not a red flag. Especially when 🇮🇱 was giving medical treatment to them in Syria
@Cailca@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg It has <18 and <15 categories, the latter being the more interesting for this debate, of course.
In my country it's 18, which I think is a good limit.
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg And after the west sparked his brutal ouster, they've gone back to the middle ages. And what did the evil Hilary Clinton do, laughed and said we came, we saw, he died. Sick and reckless disregard for what they left behind. Remind me, how did ISIS rise, oh yeah, in response 2 iraq
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg It was the coups of the democracies in the middle east in 50s and 60s and the CIA helping the Saudis to spread wahabis in the 70s & 80s that has resulted with what we have now. Look at Libya. Whatever u think of Gadaffi, he looked after his people, they had the best QoL in africa
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg There are a lot of backwards cultural elements in the ME, but I can't help but think that if not for the interference of the west and Israel, the region would look very different today. After the war, most Muslim states were looking to modernise and we're relatively liberal
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg And my personal experience of the plenty of Muslims that I know, that they are some of the kindest, most generous and moral people I have ever met. And don't forget, that the middle east doesn't even constitute the lions share of the global☪️ population.
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg I've seen other sites that have similar stats. And to be clear, I don't approve of the practice in any way. Much in the way I found the practice of allowing catholic priests to serially abuse children, by the Vatican abhorrent. But I refuse to write off a religion coz of worst
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg Have a look at the work of Bt'selem or Norman Finkelstein for rational, objective observations of the reality of the Israeli state. Like I alluded to earlier, during the Gaza genocide it was the pre Zionist Jewish community that was protesting the IDF in the streets of Jerusalem
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg As an atheist I'm personally skeptical and respectful of all religions equally. And most Zionists aren't even Jewish. But when looking at reality rather than one sides propaganda, it's easy to see 🇮🇱 is a psychotic society and that's got nothing to do with them being Jewish.
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg And there is a long line of Jewish intellectuals who saw the problem with Israel from the beginning. You might already know this, but they wanted the 1st PM to be Einstein. He not only refused, but wrote a letter explaining why he though the creation of Israel was a mistake
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg Pretty sure that could be pointed at the Israeli response to Oct 7. Which didn't happen in a vacuum. But all due respect you don't know what Ur talking about. The people I'm referring to are objectively opposed to Israel based on the realities they've experienced on both sides
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg Not in the opinion of Desmond Tutu, or Nelson Mandela, and with all due respect I take their opinions more seriously on the matter than yours or mine. I believe you are genuine and going off your own experiences, you mention your age limit for marriage, where are you?
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg 2/ Gabor is a thoroughly decent and thoughtful person who specialises in treating psychological trauma. Please give him a listen on the subject and his son Aaron who reports for the Grayzone. Well worth the time.
@Cailca@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg I do not know any Palestinians personally, only online. The West Bank should, in my opinion, be part of an independent state of Palestine, but the chances for that look pretty slim at the moment.
How much fun it was depends on the timing. Slightly less fun during rocket alarms
@rokkbert@TanaGaneva@NiohBerg 1/Seriously though u should check out Gabor Mate. Hungarian Jew by birth, survived the camps as a baby and was evacuated to Canada. Grew up a committed Zionist and admits that it wasn't until he went to Palestine for himself that he changed his mind and has advocated for 🇵🇸 since