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Chanano
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@Jacknight6289 @GigaBasedDad It's the original Christian church and it's decentralized.
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@apologistlayman @Torncurtainorg Gay french guy aura with the small cigs
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@Torncurtainorg Could be smoking a giraffe, idc. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. And the statement made was that smoking was cringey
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Today I learned that smoking is “cringe” if its not your guys, but if it’s your guys then its not cringe 👀
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@DefiantBaptist @robert71559 openly admitting to a fallacy is a new low
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@robert71559 Unfortunately, that's the game they like to play with us, so that's what they get back, good and hard.
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REMINDER: James White promotes the work of Gavin Ortlund, who sat under the preaching of a gay man (Sam Allberry) for years.
Defiant Baptist@DefiantBaptist
On a recent Dividing Line (2/27/2025), James White (@HwsEleutheroi) recommended @gavinortlund as a great resource for Protestant apologetic material, despite the fact that Gavin is a theological liberal who doesn’t like James at all. White even says that you have to “eat the meat, spit out the bones” with someone like Ortlund, which is totally unbiblical. Scripture tells us to mark and avoid false teachers (Romans 16:17-18), which Gavin Ortlund clearly is. Finally, White’s endorsement of Ortlund stands in stark contrast to his vile treatment of reformed brothers with whom he has disagreements over practical theology, political theory, and/or historical perspectives. I’m thinking of Stephen Wolfe, Joel Webbon, the Ogden guys, and Ray Fava (Evangelical Dark Web). Link: youtu.be/LcK9rjKoT-Y
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@BillArnoldTeach I think its easy talking this side of the reformation. If you lived through the Reformation you would of also seen the great horror the church was doing in Europe.
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Protestantism begins with protest.
Catholicism begins with Christ.
One needed a rebellion to exist.
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@BishopJaxi Modernism? you all are blessing people that are openly in sin without asking for true repentance. There is plenty of progressive camps within the RC
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The Catholic Church is the unbroken apostolic community Christ founded with the same sacraments, same episcopal succession, same living Magisterium.
The fullness of the Gospel remains where it always has, united under the successor of Peter.
Five centuries after the Reformation’s failed experiment in private judgment that led to modernism, atheism, division, and heresy, the ancient faith did not scatter into fragments. It still lives, whole and visible, in the historic Catholic communion.
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When you convert to eastern orthodoxy they make you do a Dracula voice?
Chasing Domes@chasingdomes
I cannot understand the affectation. He’s born in Southern California. It’s a Slavic/Arabic/Greek hybrid accent.
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@DucreauxJoseph @CrushnSerpents It has not produced a complete or comprehensive commentary on the whole bible.
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@ChananoSDG @CrushnSerpents All of it. Because the Church has authority. You don't
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents God be with you... I think we hit this horse long enough to the point we are just repeating the same thing.
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@ChananoSDG @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents Ecumenical means the whole Church. Regional means an individual geographic subset of the church. It's not that wild a distinction. Yes, if they don't agree with the ordinary magesterium, they're not holding an ecumenical or normative position.
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@Nicholai_Korea Yeah that’s a reach.. but to be honest your engagement has been lackluster and very deflective. Very low tier imo
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Instead of engaging with our theology and showing where it is wrong we are constantly dealing with this low tier bs.
ThatParticularBaptist@PartBaptist1689
What I have learned from engaging Catholic and Eastern Orthodox on the internet is that they have no issue lying to win debates. They see you as a heretic and will use any tactic to win no holds barred.
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents That’s a perfect circle. Ecumenical means agrees with the rest, regional means disagrees. So “the canon was ecumenical” just means “the people who agreed agreed.” The East was half the Church. Calling their dissent regional only works once you’ve already decided they don’t count
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@ChananoSDG @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents When the East operates as a part of the universal Church and contributes ordinary magesterium, it's ecumenical. When they do their own thing the majority of the Church doesn't hold to, it's regional yes.
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents When the East defines Christology, it’s ecumenical. When it holds a different canon, it’s regional. The category shifts based on whether you agree with the result. That’s the giveaway. Either Eastern witness counts or it doesn’t, you can’t toggle it per topic.
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@ChananoSDG @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents The east being represented in the West, the canon issues boil down to the East acting on it's own regionally.
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents That’s defining the East out of the Church to win the argument. The first seven ecumenical councils were Eastern. The dogmas of the Trinity and Incarnation came from Eastern bishops in Eastern cities. If the East doesn’t count for the canon, why does it count for the Trinity?
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@ChananoSDG @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents The East is generally not particularly relevant in any academic sense, the West has always been where things have been settled. The east not having a consistent view of purpose doesn't mean they didn't still use the Deuterocanon for the same purposes as the West in education.
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents Glad we agree the East disagreed. That settles the original question, the canon wasn’t uniform pre Trent. Whether Eastern disagreement maps onto the modern Protestant canon is a separate issue and not one I made. My point was always about the lack of pre Trent settledness.
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@ChananoSDG @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents No the east definitely disagreed, just not in a way that makes a case for how Protestants appeal to the 66 book Canon. The East barely even touches the Old Testament liturgically in most cases. The Western Church regards the canon more in the sense of teaching boundaries.
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@DucreauxJoseph @CrushnSerpents You tell me. What infallible commentary has the church produced?
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@ChananoSDG @CrushnSerpents But what interpretation of Scripture is infallible?
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents Two retreats here. “Not all strong objections” concedes the list and just argues degree. “Eastern distinctions are different” tries to wall off half the Church as not really disagreeing. Neither works. Disagreement about which books and what status is exactly what unsettled means
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@ChananoSDG @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents Few of these are strong objections across the board. And even still, most of the eastern distinctions come from perceived differences in the purpose of having a canon, which is an entirely different argument from the modern controversy and boils down to liturgical structure.
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents Renaissance / pre-Trent: Cardinal Ximénes (early 16th c.), Erasmus (early 16th c.), Lefèvre d’Étaples (early 16th c.), Cardinal Cajetan (1532), Cardinal Seripando (at Trent itself). from my notes double check some could be wrong tbh
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@Diversity_2112 @NintendoSteve @CrushnSerpents Medieval: Gregory the Great (6th c., Pope), John of Damascus (8th c.), Venerable Bede (8th c.), Hugh of St. Victor (12th c.), John of Salisbury (12th c.), Nicholas of Lyra (14th c.).
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