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@kgm780 Facts! This argument is idiotic anyways.

@Charlie601611 @DeiGratia64 Looking back through the thread it seems there's some hostility that I did not consider. We both serve Christ and work to further His kingdom. Our traditions are different, but our goals are the same. I hope we agree on that!

Couldn’t help but notice scripture wasn’t used to refute the claim.

@kgm780 The word support also means foundation, and the other I don’t know what it means. But my point is still valid about what I said.

@Charlie601611 @DeiGratia64 I would note that of all the translations you provided, the NIV is the only one that uses the term "foundation." All this passage is saying is that the church stands for and defends truth. This does not answer the question on whether scripture or the church has greater authority.

@kgm780 @DeiGratia64 WAIT! I just reread the verse in Timothy, I’ve been trying to prove something I don’t need to. I can prove that the church is the pillar AND FOUNDATION of truth, if you look at 3:15 it very explicitly states “the church of the living God, the pillar and FOUNDATION of the truth.”

@Charlie601611 @DeiGratia64 Specifically, Paul refers to that which is instructed by him and the other apostles either by "word of mouth or by letter." That would include anything that him, or the apostles wrote afterward. Since the apostles are no longer around today, all we have is their writings.

@HGRandolph @DelusionPosting One of the characters is a play on words for where it’s located! How can people be this stupid?

@DelusionPosting People don’t know that Oregon is in the Pacific Northwest?

@kgm780 @DeiGratia64 The foundation is Jesus, which is the word of God, that still differs from it outright being the Bible. And I believe we can assume such, because the gospels weren’t even written yet when Paul wrote those letters. Why would he be referring to books not even written yet?

@Charlie601611 @DeiGratia64 The church is a pillar for truth, but the Word is the foundation of it. A pillar cannot stand without a firm foundation, and that's what the Word is. Paul says He is writing to Timothy so that Timothy's church can be a pillar of truth, that means Timothy needed Paul's letter.

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@ERIS_MANIA_YT The 10 Gallon Hand Sanitizer Being dropped on your ass when I see you

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@DeiGratia64 I agree with you, but can you source which council this is from?

@BornAgainBalaky Sola scriptura is 16th century heretical nonsense.

@DeiGratia64 And if you want Paul himself, here’s him saying it’s not just in scripture. Also RSV.

@BornAgainBalaky @DeiGratia64 That’s why Timothy says the church is the pillar of truth, which would go against the idea of sola scriptura. And 4 translations, so you can’t try to say the translation is wrong. The first is RSV, considered one of the closest word for word translations.

@Catholic_bro Source is “trust me bro” or would it be “trust the king that wanted to divorce his wife”? Or would it be “trust the guy who didn’t even trust REVELATION AS SCRIPTURE”? Which do you think it is?

@BornAgainBalaky Oh neat Source ?

@BornAgainBalaky @oldanon1776 @Catholic_bro If not, then when did Catholics and Eastern Orthodox consider it scripture? And why is it even in the Septuagint? It’s considered scripture, but yall deny it cause it rejects what the reformation believed.

@oldanon1776 @Catholic_bro lol the early church did not consider them divinely inspired and they were never considered that. Still aren’t. :)

@AnonMooseTweet @notabreadliner @Catholic_bro @RazorFist I don’t mind if it’s trolling, it helps me further my reading of the bible and reinforce my beliefs.

@Charlie601611 @notabreadliner @Catholic_bro @RazorFist He still hasn’t given his translation that supposedly has the Bible as the pillar, haha. Excellent trolling by him.

The idea that the sacraments were symbolic didn't come from Zwingli or the Reformed. It was an error that had already festered in quarters of Rome, despite the Pope's "final authority". Luther remarked on it during his infamous visit to the Vatican, prior to the Reformation.

@notabreadliner @Catholic_bro @RazorFist It’s also the same for NIV and ESV, so you can’t deny it, the church is the foundation of truth.

@notabreadliner @Catholic_bro @RazorFist It’s the same for NASB2020 which is considered one of the most accurate translations, same for RSV.

@notabreadliner @Catholic_bro @RazorFist I guess yall removed Timothy from the Bible if you want to claim such an outrageous statement.

@Catholic_bro @RazorFist And on top of that the Bible says the Bible is the pillar and foundation of truth not the church. 🤌

@J17apologetics @DerMennonite @5Solas2 What do you mean by corrupt? I get if you mean how the Calvinists believe in predestination, but what about the Catholics?

Depends on what articles of the faith are the most important. Catholicism and Calvinism are both built on Augustinian anthropology and they both completely corrupt the incarnation of Christ. Orthodoxy might have more "practices" in common with Catholicism, like liturgical services, for example. But to me the fundamental issue begins with Christology, not with worship.

Heretics don't become brothers on Easter.

@J17apologetics @DerMennonite @5Solas2 So wouldn’t they be further from Catholics and closer to EO then?

@Charlie601611 @DerMennonite @5Solas2 They are.

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Can someone explain this to me?