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@CharlieStLouis

defi @ethereumfndn | non-objective search | prev. @delv_tech (ceo) @makerdao (gov architect)

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charles (csl) ᛋ@CharlieStLouis·
1/ Today the EF is sharing a bit more about how it's approaching DeFi going forward:
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nixo.eth 🦇🔊🥐
nixo.eth 🦇🔊🥐@nixorokish·
the EF treasury officially had its first validator index assigned as of this morning 🎉 it took a while because there's been so much influx into staking that the entry queue peaked at 71 days in February
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Ethereum Foundation@ethereumfndn

1/ The Ethereum Foundation has begun staking a portion of its treasury, in line with its Treasury Policy announced last year. Today, the EF made a 2016 ETH deposit. Approximately 70,000 ETH will be staked with rewards directed back to the EF treasury.

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Vault Summit
Vault Summit@Vault__Summit·
The Ethereum Foundation just made DeFi a core priority. Here's what's next. Charles St. Louis (@CharlieStLouis), focused on DeFi at @ethereumfndn, will spotlight what operational infrastructure and information layers should look like for onchain asset management.
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Ethereum Foundation
Ethereum Foundation@ethereumfndn·
0/ The Ethereum Foundation continues to explore DeFi as part of its treasury strategy. In Oct 2025, EF deployed 2,400 ETH + ~$6M in stablecoins into @Morpho Vaults V1. x.com/ethereumfndn/s… Today: another 3,400 ETH into Morpho, where 1,000 ETH in Morpho Vaults V2. Why Morpho? 👇
Ethereum Foundation@ethereumfndn

0/ Today, the Ethereum Foundation deposited 2400 ETH and ~$6M stablecoins into Morpho’s yield-bearing vaults. Morpho is a pioneer in permissionless DeFi protocols and consistently demonstrates a commitment to Free/Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS) principles.

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Michael
Michael@mostlyblocks·
The low-hanging fruits are delegating the trade to a sophisticated party, and extending the time horizon out. Also like the @ETHGasOfficial approach of kicking back a share of secondary trade volume to the validator, which prices out volatility to an extent. Generally anything that adds predictability is beneficial, such as: Allowing multiple parties to contribute to blocks. Less latency variance in the block propagation pipeline.
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charles (csl) ᛋ@CharlieStLouis·
@mostlyblocks Thanks! Yeah, the boundaries between those aren't perfectly clean, and gas is a solid example of that. Curious what approaches you're thinking about for the adverse selection problem
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Michael@mostlyblocks·
Cool piece. Could see gas markets as sitting between consensus and compute, where: (1) The gas limit is the upper boundary for compute. (2) Consensus can constrain compute supply. An example are lean blocks during volatility. The issue with gas markets so far has been adverse selection. There are good ways of addressing this. E.g. on a technical level, even a reduction in latency variance would allow fuller blocks during vol.
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charles (csl) ᛋ@CharlieStLouis·
Core idea: Ethereum exposes three scarce resources - consensus, compute, and storage. DeFi has financialized one. The other two are wide open.
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charles (csl) ᛋ@CharlieStLouis·
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vitalik.eth@VitalikButerin

This is the new EF Mandate. For many of you, the contents should be no surprise, and a clarification along the lines that we have been going and thinking for the past few months. But the clarification is nevertheless worth making. Ethereum is a unique object and has a unique role in the world. Its role is to be a sanctuary technology, to preserve technological self-sovereignty, to enable cooperation without coercion, domination or rugpulling, and to provide an escape hatch, to ensure that no single person, organization or ideology's victory in cyberspace can be total. The Ethereum Foundation is a steward of Ethereum - the original steward, and today, the steward specifically dedicated to preserving and expanding the above aspects of Ethereum. This means a heavy emphasis on CROPS (censorship and capture resistance, open source, privacy, security), both at the protocol layer, and at the access layer, user-facing applications and tools that we create or contribute to. There are things that we do in Ethereum because we believe that they are valuable for the underlying goals that we have for Ethereum. There are things that we do not do because from the perspective of our values we find them uninteresting (or worse, harmful). But there are also things that we do not do because while they are useful, they are not our role. At the Ethereum protocol layer, we focus on decentralization, verifiability, inclusion guarantees, protocol liveness, security and privacy first and foremost. We also value capabilities (eg. L1 scale, account abstraction, perhaps some forms of in-protocol aggregation), particularly because improvements in these capabilities better enable users to properly benefit from Ethereum's CROPS properties and displace the need for higher-layer intermediaries that might weaken the extent to which Ethereum's properties carry over into the full stack. We also believe that the Ethereum protocol must strive to pass the walkaway test. "We do X to specialize to serve the use cases of today, if more use cases appear later, we will continue to keep adding more EIPs for them later" is logic fit for many other blockchains whose names you hear often on this forum, but we do not believe it is logic fit for a decentralization-first blockchain like Ethereum. At the application layer, we focus on making "the zero option" - user experience that goes hard on ensuring security and privacy, avoiding dependence on intermediaries, and respecting the user's agency - as high quality as possible. We see this as complementary to work in the Ethereum ecosystem that "goes broad", starting from the world that it exists, and brings it onchain and improves its properties over time. Such work has its natural home outside the EF. We intend to be supportive of such efforts. We believe that the two are complementary: tools that are developed within the EF can be adopted by anyone, including partially, and even partial adoption that improves people's security, privacy and agency is a good thing. But the form of user experience that is more heavily insistent on CROPS properties is where we want the EF to develop its center of expertise. This does not mean shrinking from the hard questions. We believe in a vision of self-sovereignty that protects users, and does not leave users in the cold to face environments where they lose their life savings if they make a mistake, and click "yes" on a confirmation screen by accident two seconds after. But such protection must be designed based on a philosophical baseline of empowering the user, not empowering centralized organizations that claim to act in the user's name. This quadrant of design space - caring about users' (including non-experts') well-being and safety, and yet insistent on doing this in a way compatible with their agency and freedom, is underserved (not just in crypto, but in the world). We wish to use Ethereum as a platform to build out and showcase this quadrant, and ideally work with others to expand its reach over time. This is also a new chapter in how we see our position in the world. We must see ourselves not just as the Ethereum community, but also as maintainers of the Ethereum tool within what you might call the CROPS community or the sanctuary tech community, or a dozen of other words that have for a long time been used by people with similar values to us but far outside Ethereum. This means open-mindedness to new conceptions of what things in the world are our natural allies. Ethereum is not the world. Ethereum is a specific object in the world that is here to have specific properties. The Ethereum Foundation is a specific organization within Ethereum - one steward, not the sole one. I encourage all to read the mandate in detail; it includes concrete examples of how we intend to deal with the challenges and nuances of these ideas. We are doubling down on Ethereum and are excited about its next chapter.

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Julian
Julian@_julianma·
Ethereum should build layers of defense for its users. Yes there should be more UI defenses against insane trades. But there should also be layers of defense in Ethereum itself. Transaction assertions is one: the protocol cancels your trade if at the end of execution something crazy happened. Encrypted mempools is the other: don’t let others benefit from your trade information. That is how we make Ethereum the home of low-risk DeFi
Stani.eth@StaniKulechov

Earlier today, a user attempted to buy AAVE using $50M USDT through the Aave interface. Given the unusually large size of the single order, the Aave interface, like most trading interfaces, warned the user about extraordinary slippage and required confirmation via a checkbox. The user confirmed the warning on their mobile device and proceeded with the swap, accepting the high slippage, which ultimately resulted in receiving only 324 AAVE in return. The transaction could not be moved forward without the user explicitly accepting the risk through the confirmation checkbox. The CoW Swap routers functioned as intended, and the integration followed standard industry practices. However, while the user was able to proceed with the swap, the final outcome was clearly far from optimal. Events like this do occur in DeFi, but the scale of this transaction was significantly larger than what is typically seen in the space. We sympathize with the user and will try to make a contact with the user and we will return $600K in fees collected from the transaction. The key takeaway is that while DeFi should remain open and permissionless, allowing users to perform transactions freely, there are additional guardrails the industry can build to better protect users. Our team will be investigating ways to improve these safeguards going forward.

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Julian
Julian@_julianma·
Why do so many people choose to lend out ETH on Aave for 2% instead of stake via Lido for 3% yield? In a new paper with Joel Hasbrouck, @cryptoeconprof, and @casparschwa we build a structural econometric model and estimate it with data from Aave and Lido. The result? There is a huge market inefficiency that cannot be explained by smart contract risk, depeg risk, or any other risk.
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