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I love language and linguistics. The Bible isn't complicated to understand. Read it daily, become Christian. 𐤋𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄

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DBH at 12min "At the time of the Arian controversy, Arianism or in its more moderate form semi-arianism... had a more a more substantially established claim to orthodoxy than what became the Nicean settlement" Yes! youtu.be/h0J1H91aqx8
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JonDomm
JonDomm@Dom1968Juan·
@Christobvious @GaryHuerta12 🤣 I didn't get a reply, but the agent of darkness, i.e., DK, hijacked it 😆 while he was seething and gnashing at truth! 😒😆
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JonDomm
JonDomm@Dom1968Juan·
Oof, that's a lot to say and quote from "men" Only to arrive to pagan concepts. Angel of the Lord is NOT Yahweh. Jesus is NOT Yahweh. Heb 1:1,2. Agency ≠ God. These philosophies are a satanic ruse to draw you away from the True God.
David Limbaugh@DavidLimbaugh

I asked the AI study guide in Logos Bible Software about the term angel of the Lord in the Old Testament and why evangelical scholars interpreted that to mean a pre-incarnate version of Christ. I further asked it about the Jewish interpretation. I think the answer is interesting as it always is. Angel of the Lord > Many evangelical scholars believe that the term angel of the Lord in the Old Testament describes pre-incarnate appearances of the son of God. Why did they come to believe that God is not an angel his son is not an angel so how did Bible scholars come up with the theory that the term angel of the Lord was in fact a pre-incarnate Christ? Also, how did the Jews interpret that phrase and how was that phrase? translated in the Hebrew scriptures. Evangelical scholars arrived at the preincarnate Christ interpretation through careful textual analysis rather than theological assumption. The angel of the Lord identifies himself as Yahweh in accounts like Abraham and Jacob’s encounters, speaking both for and as God, while others identify him as God—as seen in Hagar’s and Joseph’s stories.[1] Although Scripture teaches that only God deserves worship, the Angel of the Lord accepts reverence and worship.[1] These characteristics—combined with the angel’s divine knowledge and actions—suggested a figure distinct from ordinary messengers yet possessing divine attributes. A crucial observation strengthened this interpretation: theologians noticed the phrase “the angel of the Lord” never appears after Jesus arrives in the New Testament, suggesting that once the incarnation occurred, this unique heavenly representative became obsolete because Jesus became God’s earthly, visible representative.[2] Unlike other angelic beings who refused worship because they were creatures, the angel of the Lord accepted it without rebuke, and unlike other angels who emphatically declared their creatureliness when people sought to worship them, the angel of the Lord did not.[3] Regarding Jewish interpretation, the evidence is complex. Jewish theologians prior to the New Testament era, observing texts featuring the Angel and other “dual Yahweh” language, developed a theology of two powers in heaven—a teaching Jewish authorities declared heresy after the second century AD.[4] In the Septuagint (Greek translation), only 33 of 56 occurrences carry the definite article, making it difficult to determine conclusively whether Alexandrian Jewish translators understood this “Angel” as having unique identity or as simply one of God’s heavenly hosts.[5] The Aramaic Targums, however, rendered Genesis 4:1 as “I have gotten a man, the angel of Jehovah” or “the angel of the Lord,” suggesting rabbis recognized something supernatural in the text.[6] [1] David J. MacLeod, “The Trinity and Scripture,” Emmaus Journal (2002), 11:2:195. [2] René A. López, “Identifying the ‘Angel of the Lord’ in the Book of Judges: A Model for Reconsidering the Referent in Other Old Testament Loci,” Bulletin for Biblical Research (2010), 14. [3] Douglas McCready, He Came down from Heaven: The Preexistence of Christ and the Christian Faith (Downers Grove, IL; Leicester, England: InterVarsity Press; Apollos, 2005), 180–181. [4] Michael S. Heiser, The Bible Unfiltered: Approaching Scripture on Its Own Terms (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2017), 67. [5] John M. Jr. Baze, “The Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament—Part II,” Conservative Theological Journal (1998), 2:4:66. [6] Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum, Ariel’s Bible Commentary: The Book of Genesis (San Antonio, TX: Ariel Ministries, 2008), 115–116.

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TheO_bvious📓@Christobvious·
Jesus BECAME a life giving spirit... So he wasn't one all along
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Memorial is done. It was nice, many people coming back.
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These laws are universal : they cannot be grounded in a particular, finite mind These are conceptual : they must be grounded in an absolute mind. We discover these truths because they are grounded in the eternal, invariant mind of God.
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@creationtoday The reason we "discover" things like irrational numbers is that they are transcendental categories that are not found in nature (you won't step on them) but still govern our reality.

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@creationtoday The reason we "discover" things like irrational numbers is that they are transcendental categories that are not found in nature (you won't step on them) but still govern our reality.
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Creation Today
Creation Today@creationtoday·
Irrational numbers weren’t invented. They were discovered… even when people didn’t want them to exist. Truth isn’t created by us. It comes from God. 👉 CreationToday.org/466
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TheO_bvious📓@Christobvious·
@philobrossuckdi @darwintojesus In a naturalistic universe, everything is reduced to matter in motion and deterministic chemical reactions. Chemical brain states are merely physical events that occur => they carry no truth value and cannot be "correct" or "incorrect" evaluations
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Darwin to Jesus
Darwin to Jesus@darwintojesus·
1. If morality is subjective, then moral “progress” is just a change in preference, not real improvement. 2. But moral progress is real, we recognize that some things are genuinely better or worse, not merely different (slavery is worse than not slavery, child labor laws is better than children dying in factories, etc) 3. Therefore, morality is not subjective. 4. Morality is either subjective or objective. 5. Therefore, morality is objective.
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John17apologetics@J17apologetics·
What is? That the messenger gets to pretend he's God? No it isn't. Exodus 7, God tells moses "i have made you God to Pharaoh" (Agency), but Moses NEVER tells Pharaoh "I am the Lord God and you must obey ME or i will send MY plagues upon you". 100% of the time Moses states"this is what God says. Listen to HIM, or HE will send His plaues upon you".
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John17apologetics@J17apologetics·
Your time is valuable. Don't waste it on people like this.
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@chinmusic111 @AleMartnezR1 @darwintojesus Yes, morals are not material, but if you reject a Designer, you cannot account for how immaterial, universal, and invariant categories could even exist in a world one would claim is purely material and in constant flux. You need the mind of God to ground the transcendantals
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TheO_bvious📓@Christobvious·
@philobrossuckdi @darwintojesus the moment you invoke a judgment or claim that something is real, you are appealing to a standard of correctness and purpose that naturalism is fundamentally unable to account for need? it can't!
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Philbro Ass
Philbro Ass@philobrossuckdi·
@Christobvious @darwintojesus Naturalism doesn’t need to justify a qualitative judgement That’s like saying chemistry needs to justify art and beauty to be real
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TheO_bvious📓@Christobvious·
@philobrossuckdi @darwintojesus In a worldview without inherent purpose, every complex biological feat like the heart pumping or the liver filtering toxins must be classified as incidental
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Sean@ChristIsComing5·
Be careful of the Jehovah’s Witness Cult. They are active. We can love them. But DO NOT follow their insanely dangerous doctrine!
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...Therefore, Morality must be objective, and its objectivity can only be justified by a worldview that accounts for invariant universals and human purpose: the Christian paradigm.
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... subjectivism makes "moral progress" a logical impossibility (it's merely a change of preference by those with the biggest guns, haha) 4. We can't make universal judgement (condemning slavery, etc) without falling into performative contradiction. 5. Conclusion : Morality is...
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Objectivity requires a Mind. Universal, invariant moral laws cannot be grounded in particular, changing material things. Morality is not just objective in a vacuum = it is a reflection of the invariant nature of GOD.
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@darwintojesus Also, the word "better" is a qualitative judgment that naturalism cannot justify. If we are just molecules in motion, one state of affairs (no slavery) is not truer or better than another (slavery), it is just a different arrangement of matter

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