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@ClockworkLin

Katılım Ağustos 2015
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@rparloff Whenever I read these briefs, I wonder how I would respond if I got a defense brief like that. I don't respond to bait or "arguments" like that, but if it's all that's in there, you have nothing left.
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Roger Parloff@rparloff·
It's becoming hard to distinguish DAG Blanche's prose from Trump's. Trump's reply brief over his "Militarily Top Secret Ballroom" stresses that the suit is motivated by TDS & brought by Greg Craig, WH counsel to "Barack Hussein Obama." storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
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@TheMiddleborne @MustacheBob2 That certainly addressed your views on the ending of the poem and how it differs from the film's. But I get it, these bland assertions are all you have.
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@TheMiddleborne @MustacheBob2 I have an ma in medieval lit and wrote a large research paper on it. I also have a tattoo from the original manuscript.
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@JavierWoT Comparing this show to from does a disservice because I had such different expectations. It's a good comedy I guess but not similar to a show where people are invested in uncovering answers to a mystery. It reminds me more of evil dead, like a rolicking horror parody
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Javier Cañavate #ThePitt #From
Acabo de ver el primer capítulo de Widow's Bay, nueva serie de Apple TV y estoy ALUCINANDO. Una isla de la que nadie puede escapar, misterios, y una niebla que la invade y oculta el terror. Si os gusta From, tiene ese aura, pero se centra más en el horror que en los misterios.
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@TheMiddleborne @MustacheBob2 In the poem, gawain pretends to be honorable and chivalrous but when faced with death fails and is given a scar for his cowardice. The movie shows him as a coward and dishonorable but when faced with death, has a vision and chooses honor. How does that ruin the point?
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@rparloff @steve_vladeck Well, see, his all have reasoning for real but you can't know it because it's private
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@MrBruhgobbledy Someone should alert Dante that some hack named Chaucer rewrote his authorial intent.
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@MrBruhgobbledy This is true about any storytelling prior to the printing press given oral traditions, scribes, and the transitory nature of written documents that didn't survive well and few people could read them. Stories were malleable and had no "true" version, but were constantly remixed
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Mr Bruh@MrBruhgobbledy·
Homerist and Classical Studies Professors reviewed The Odyssey trailer (spoiler alert - unlike the illiterate chuds and Greek-history larpers, they are actually excited by Nolan's unique vision)
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@FROMonMGM Now people are going to post intricate cake and spice and spicecake theories. You've done it now!
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FROM on MGM+@FROMonMGM·
Julie’s Book Club has the perfect book waiting for you. Catch up on FROM now on MGM+
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spor@sporadica·
forget the virus, WHO THE HELL is taking antarctic cruises from argentina, sailing the remote south Atlantic, going home to SF for a day, then flying to the remote Pacific and ending up on one of the most remote islands on Earth that's a damn Lord of the Rings level journey
Jacqueline Sweet@JSweetLI

Radio New Zealand reports an American citizen who is a “hantavirus contact case” flew from San Francisco to Tahiti to remote Pitcairn Island on Thursday without telling anyone and has now been quarantined there after authorities became aware she arrived.

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@sporadica @MoonriseBill I asked my friend why there seemed to be so many influencers on that ship and she said that particular trip is the ship going from the Antarctic to the Arctic and you're right, it attracts all the travel influencers who check off all these insane remote places for viral content
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spor@sporadica·
@MoonriseBill travelers like this that just roam the globe trying to check boxes piss me off so much
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@DDDrewDaniel It's putting lit profs on my timeline, tho (ex medieval lit grad). It bothers me that these posts write about some guy named Homer & the one interpretation of his singular text. Learning about oral traditions, scribes, reconstructing and translating partial texts would be nice
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DREW DANIEL@DDDrewDaniel·
The recent welter of false choice Homer discourse on here (re: Achilles as "role model" vs transhistorical queer icon) is very painful to witness and has me dreading the Nolan film and the subsequent waves of "white statue guy" / chud outrage on here. Lit profs, brace yourselves.
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@inter_man21 @M4ke4l @fermini111 It wasn't at the time (I watched it as it played on television) but years later, I find it more satisfactory. I think people wanted a less supernatural television show at the time and thought time travel was silly, but now it's more acceptable to think about in television
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فيرميني
فيرميني@fermini111·
ما هو المسلسل الافضل من بين هذي المسلسلات؟؟
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@inter_man21 @M4ke4l @fermini111 It actually isn't as bad as people say. People were disappointed because they expected something else, but also, I think a lot of people didn't follow the story that well and misunderstood it
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@Th_Angelopoulos Didn't study ancient Greek but went to grad school for medieval literature. Getting bombarded by these horrific takes on ancient texts that have no concept of how they have traveled through time to the modern reader is getting tiring.
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Thanos Angelopoulos@Th_Angelopoulos·
Roman Helmet Guy is a moron. Here's why: The word is a compound adjective formed by the prefix poly- (from polys, meaning “many”, “multiple”, or “great in number”) + the noun tropos + the adjectival ending -os. Tropos itself derives from the verb trepō (τρέπω), “to turn, to twist, to change direction”. Its IE root trep- carries the core sense of “turning” or “bending”. In Greek, tropos literally means “a turn”, “a twist”, “a way”, “a direction”, or “a path”, and only secondarily “manner”, “character”, “method” or “habit”. Thus the literal etymological force of polytropos is “having many turns” or “of many twistings/ways” aka a single word that fuses multiplicity (poly-) with the idea of deviation, adaptation, and change (tropos). It is not a simple descriptor; it encodes the notion of something that constantly “turns” or “shifts”, whether geographically or mentally. Per the standard reference Liddell-Scott-Jones Greek-English Lexicon, the word carries two intertwined layers of meaning:Literal / physical: “much-turned”, “much-wandering”, “much-traveled”, “roaming widely”. This is precisely how Odysseus is understood in Odyssey 1.1 (“ἄνδρα … πολύτροπον”) and again at 10.330 (Circe addressing him). Metaphorical / characterological: “versatile”, “of many devices”, “resourceful”, “wily”, “shifty”, “adaptable”. Examples: Hermes (Homeric Hymn to Hermes), Plato (Hippias Minor 364e–365a, where he contrasts the “polytropos” Odysseus with the “simple” Achilles), Thucydides (versatility of mind), Plutarch (on Alcibiades). Later texts can shade into “fickle” or “changeable”. The adverb polytropōs simply means “in many ways” or “variously”. In Modern Greek the word survives as a learned term meaning “resourceful,” “inventive,” “intricate,” or “complicated”, with the same double edge. Homer places polytropos in the very first line of the Odyssey (“Ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, Μοῦσα, πολύτροπον…”) precisely because the word is deliberately ambiguous. It invites a double reading that no single English adjective can fully replicate: Literal: the hero who has literally “turned” through countless places; Trojan War, stormy seas, islands, underworld, back to Ithaca. Metaphorical: the hero whose mind and character are full of twists; cunning, shape-shifting, never straightforward, endlessly adaptive. This is not accidental. Homer is announcing a new kind of hero: not the straight-line, uncomplicated warrior (Achilles, “the simplest and most truthful”, in Plato’s words), but the multifaceted, many-layered, non-linear survivor. Polytropos is the ancient Greek way of saying “complicated man”. Emily Wilson’s choice of “complicated” is therefore not a simplification or a betrayal of the Greek; it is a defensible modern English rendering that captures the core etymological and conceptual force of the word. “Complicated” preserves the sense of “many turns”, “not straightforward”, “full of twists”; both in Odysseus’s journey and in his character, while remaining immediately intelligible to contemporary readers. English simply has no single native word that packs the same literal + metaphorical punch as the Greek compound. “Man of many ways,” “versatile,” “wily,” or “of many devices” all require footnotes or sound archaic; “complicated” does the job cleanly. They attack Wilson for choosing “complicated”. Who? Peoople who do not read ancient Greek (and certainly not fluently). They are reacting to a surface-level English word without grasping the layered ambiguity Homer himself built into polytropos. Someone who cannot read the original line, who has never parsed the etymology of tropos, and who has never seen how later Greek authors exploited the same double meaning is simply not in a position to lecture a professional classicist on what the Greek “really” means. Wilson did a good translation. She's is genuinely a good scholar. They, on the other hand, are ποικιλοτρόπως, πολυτρόπως, παντοτρόπως, διαρκώς, και εντελώς αμετατρόπως ηλίθιοι.
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In Emily Wilson’s own explanation of why she misleadingly translated ‘polytropos’ (literally ‘many-turned’ or ‘many-turning’) to the pejorative epithet ‘complicated’ when describing Odysseus, she gives the correct translation:

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@thhouseofblack I am old and went to a college in the 90s. It emphasized studying classics. We learned about this then. I sent that thread to one of my classmates so he could laugh about where we have landed even if it's not that funny.
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sil ♡ penelope whisperer@thhouseofblack·
This is entirely absurd. As though even the Ancients had not been discussing the nature of Achilles' relationship with Patroclus. Relationships between men was normal in greek mythos – Achilles, Agamemnon, Heracles, Pelops all had a male lover at a certain point.
The Warrior Philosopher@TWarPhilosopher

These two books were disastrous for humanity and study of the Ancients. Miller convinced leftists Achilles and Patroclus were gay lovers and Wilson translated the Iliad to implicitly hint at this. Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey is the final straw to ruin Homer.

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@Charles91295147 @FilmThePoliceLA Skin that smoke wagon (on his hand) is a line from an older western movie (tombstone). So I guess he thinks he's a cowboy.
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Film The Police LA@FilmThePoliceLA·
So much for LAPD being required to cover their tattoos.
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@zmwang That looks amazing. I'm here for it
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