Corey Crowley

@fw_Badman As a villain doing villainous things, HL has the edge. OM was just following orders and regretted it, causing a heel-face turn. But battle and power stats? HELL no. HL is a 3, 4 at best, compared to OM's 10. OM destroying an alien atmosphere is a feat HL could only DREAM about.

Do you agree or not?

@fw_Badman This was the biggest misstep of Season 5. I was expecting an argument followed by a fist fight. The model of Homelanderland would get destroyed and HL, in a rage, would kill SB, then try to justify it by saying Gods don't need fathers. But *this* felt completely cheap.

Wasn’t it kind of bad writing for a Strong Supe like Soldier to get choked and Just pass out just like that He didn’t even fight it at all

@hesjustdaniel The best hero/villain dynamic is when the two sides are complete opposites of each other. Butcher became just as nuts as Homelander and it was foreshadowed early on that he wouldn't stop. But Hughie's optimism and loyalty to his friends is the opposite viewpoint of Billy's.

You all decided u were gonna hate the finale before it even aired.

@hesjustdaniel Fans just don't seem to grasp that the "Homelander Wins" scenario COULDN'T happen because Butcher was always meant to be the final boss. The moment he told Ryan that the world would be better if Supes didn't exist I knew that the show would go the route of the comics.

@utd_johnson He was a victim up to a point. Season 3, when he ousted Stan and took control of the company that created him, was the turning point. He had full control but instead of changing it for the better he just played out his revenge fantasies. And then he wanted MORE power.

Homelander is one of the most hated villains in television. But here’s the question: If a child grows up without genuine love, surrounded only by people who fear him, use him, or lie to him… At what point does he become fully responsible for the monster he becomes? Was Homelander born evil, or was he created? Curious to hear your thoughts.

@cjgrvster @raccoon_r He's got incredible DIVING abilities but he's pretty much as good a swimmer as a high school swim team champion. Not even Olympian level, I believe.

@raccoon_r I thought the deep was super powered, how could regular fish kill him? Also can't he swim extremely fast?

I don’t care what anyone says, this ending would have been perfect. The fandom wanted to see Deep actually fight back instead of getting taken out so easily. 🤷‍♂️💯

@MetaFeatsDC Comic Butcher needlessly killed most of his team and allies post-Homelander in his mad quest to kill all Supes. TV Butcher just went straight to the source and let his team (except Hughie) enjoy their victory.

Which version was more ruthless? Comic Butcher vs Live action Butcher

@johan1151951 The fish know that Deep was responsible for getting the pipeline built in the first place. If it weren't for his petition video the project wouldn't have been approved. Kevin also KNEW it was a terrible idea but did it anyway instead of saying "no."

Why didn't The Deep explain to Xander the fish that Black Noir II was responsible for tearing open the tank and he had already k!ll€d him ?

@Ayati_inc1 @manafsinare I'm now assuming he flew past the cloudline and just used the momentum to hurl the billionaire to space.

@manafsinare So how did he fly to space and back in 3seconds

What if Homelander didn’t actually get WEAKER because of bad writing… What if injecting the unstable V1 prototype literally corrupted his perfected Compound V? Think about it,His lasers felt weaker He struggled more physically,Butcher and Kimiko were actually hurting him ,He became more unstable and reckless than ever 😭 See how stronger he is in Season 1 only his presence stops an entire war.

@manafsinare Immortality at the cost of getting your stats halved... still far more powerful than a normal human, but even an average Supe can now give you trouble. All this time I thought he got his stats upgraded, but you make a great case for the opposite.

@onlypeluayo My biggest question is how the heck was Singer re-instated as president? He was recorded plotting to kill Victoria Neuman and got 25th Amendmented out of office, but he returns to office because his successors were killed and impeached? HOW?

If Annie and Hughie were still going to keep fighting as heroes, why did Hughie turn down the President's offer?

@Alexand53487973 @KnightOfLag0s Super strength, flight, and laser eyes are his weapons, but he's terrible at fighting. Anyone who gets past those lasers shakes him up, and he was flailing against Maeve, barely winning the fight with brute strength alone. Compare that with Omni-man, who knows martial arts.

@KnightOfLag0s Dude, Homelander is the character that's probably been the most underrated in history. Powerscalers let their insecure hatred of him affect how they rank his powers.

Is Homelander actually capable of causing an Armageddon-level catastrophe… or have fans been massively overrating his powers this whole time?🤔 Because outside of terrorizing civilians and weaker Supes, we’ve never really seen him operate on a true world-ending scale.

@KnightOfLag0s I don't think HL's a world-ending threat... but he is a city-ending one. Perhaps even a small country-ending one. Omni-man from "Invincible" is a world-ending threat, and Homelander's stats are at a 3, 4 at best, compared to Omni-man's 10... and compared to Thragg, OM's a 7!

@lohipuikko You'd think, after barely getting past Soldier Boy and a Suped-up Butcher and Hughie in S3, as well as BARELY defeating Maeve in the S3 finale, he would take some martial arts classes in case his power failed him. But nope, he still put all his stock in his power, and it failed.

I am generally confused by The Boys audience. Like, people really though that Homelander, The Homelander, was some sort of a macho character? And they thought he wouldn't act pathetic after what happened in the finale? Really? He was always a pathetic character lol. #TheBoys

@QuidnuncQuery @ColtonOgburn Yeah, season 5 pretty much telegraphed everything that was going to happen by the time of "One Shots." Frenchie alone triggered so many Death Flags this season that I literally said "FINALLY" when he died. The only surprise was HL knocking out SB instead of fighting/killing him.

@CoreyACrowley @ColtonOgburn True, somewhere around midpoint the writing declined and the ending was inevitable.

The sad truth is there's a chunk of folks who watched The Boys and were actively rooting against Starlight, and unironically rooting for Homelander.

@lorxell Butcher was ready to sacrifice Ryan with the virus earlier in the season. He only stopped when the spare containers were destroyed because he didn't want Ryan dying for nothing. But he'd gladly take Ryan's assistance and dying along with him if it meant taking HL out.

They could have killed Homelander in the final fight in season 3, but butcher didn’t want Ryan getting injured or dying from the blast. But that was exactly what happened in season 5 final fight. Are they stupid?

@QuidnuncQuery @ColtonOgburn There was no way Homelander was going to win. I will admit I was concerned that he might right up to the midpoint, but when he became immortal, declared the US should be a theocracy, ordered Congress dissolved, and killed the POTUS, I knew he was going to lose.

@ColtonOgburn I was rooting for Homelander to salvage a bad season by actually winning. By the end, I found none of the Boys nor their allies likeable. I'm on the left and don't like poor writing.

@SethAbramson Ooh, wait until he sees what Homelander does to billionaires...

Am I hearing correctly that Elon Musk thinks Homelander was the good guy in the The Boys

@SenateCrusher He was foreshadowed as going to the dark side and continuing his crusade after Homelander's death waaay back in Season 3. I'm just glad he didn't kill MM and Kimiko like he did in the comics.

@CoreyACrowley Butcher's death didn't surprise me at all

So, #TheBoys finale... it was everything I was expecting. Everyone did what was in character for them, everyone got what they deserved, and the second half really showed why the team needed Hughie. Butcher was always going to be the Final Boss, and only Hughie could stop him.

@Kolosmental @DiscussingFilm It was foreshadowed multiple times that Homelander was nothing without his powers, so him easily being beaten up by a brawler like Butcher and begging for his life was completely appropriate. HL didn't even know basic self defense techniques because he never needed them.

@DiscussingFilm This is why fans are divided as Homelander should have gotten a befitting end to his Machismo Character and not some weird apologetic ending.

‘THE BOYS’ series finale gave almost every character a satisfying ending. So, why are fans so divided? We try to find out why... discussingfilm.net/2026/05/24/the…