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The Critical Care Commute Podcast

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Talking Critical Care with some of the most qualified, interesting, enlightened and provocative folks in Critical Care Medicine, and beyond.

Katılım Ekim 2022
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Cheskes' own practice has moved past the trial protocol: AP pads from the start, minimal epi, early amio, straight to DSED after 3 failed shocks. The field keeps evolving.
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What's next? Early data from Sweden's "Double D" trial testing DSED after just 1 failed shock: 41% survival vs. 9% with standard defib. Small sample, but the signal is consistent — earlier is better.
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Protocol discipline > improvisation. Cheskes is clear: don't try DSED ad hoc mid-code because you read about it. It takes a drilled team and a defined 3-shock threshold.
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Common mistake: lateral pads placed too low end up shocking soft tissue, not the ventricle. Pad position matters as much as the strategy itself.
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It's not about more joules. Different defibrillators show different energy numbers, but it's the CURRENT through the myocardium that actually converts VF — and that's comparable across devices.
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The DSED sequence: after 3 failed AL shocks → 30 compressions/vents → log-roll for posterior pad → another cycle → 1 min CPR → shock AL first, then AP ~500ms later.
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Timing is everything. The longer a patient sits in VF, the more acidotic they get — and the less responsive to defibrillation. As Cheskes puts it: "In cardiac arrest, you do things late, people die."
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Vector Change vs. DSED — know the difference: • VC: move the pads from AL → AP. One vector, changed once. • DSED: ADD AP pads to the existing AL pads, fire both defibrillators ~500ms apart.
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DOSE-VF: a cluster-randomized crossover trial across 6 Ontario paramedic services, comparing standard defib, vector change, and DSED. Both alternatives showed significantly higher survival to hospital discharge than standard care.
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Refractory VF isn't a rare edge case — it's a coin flip on every VF arrest you run. ~50,000 US OHCAs present in VF each year, and half of those patients need more than 3 shocks to convert.
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Your patient is still in VF after 3 shocks. Now what? 50% of shockable OHCA patients fail standard defibrillation. We talked to Prof. Sheldon Cheskes, lead investigator of the DOSE-VF trial, about what actually works. 🧵
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