Cyka_Delik
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@GameRant Just....wow. Lol.
Has Blizzard been paying attention to what's been going on at all?
Good luck with that.
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Pride is officially coming to World of Warcraft: Midnight in Patch 12.0.5 with a brand-new mico-holiday featuring fresh cosmetics and collectibles. gamerant.com/world-warcraft…

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@Ag0at @Pirat_Nation I'm sure the game is fun, but you know that doesn't necessarily mean that it's not failing. Especially in this case.
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@Pirat_Nation Fans generally aren't really worried.
There's a weird cabal of people that want the game to fail. But the people that are playing know this game is fun.
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@Pirat_Nation Shut up. Marathon will last for 60 gorillion years.
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@isolatedrook Critically appraised...huge marketing...why did it fail?
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The thing is, none of the haters can deny it they have no valid arguments. They can’t deny the positive reviews from both the press and actual players, because, surprise surprise, Marathon is a good game, and that’s the objective truth.
Giancarlo@giancar73012035
You can twist the facts any way you like and try to fool people, but the truth is that Marathon is a great game and deserves all the positive reviews it’s received, and the vast majority of the game’s player base agrees.
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Too Many F*cking Nazis is the name of a new Steam FPS, and coincidentally an accurate description of its Steam community forums pcgamer.com/games/fps/too-…
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@MarathonArchive Shit game with shit sales,
Dying fast where the shit dwells,
Shit eaters applaud.
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@leah_tyy @Pirat_Nation Why would modern socio-political agendas belong in a fantasy world, exactly?
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@Pirat_Nation In a world with fantasy creatures and many races this is somehow a problem for people
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@Kiwi_Rio @Pirat_Nation On the contrary. Apparently the cruelty needs to be dialed up.
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@Pirat_Nation Woke is back. Conservatives controlled the culture for all of 1 year and then squandered it again by their sheer cruelty.
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@freakph0bic @dacolombiano69 @GothamGroyperAF @mormonmommyuwu @NintendoAmerica Hey libtard. Tell us about this cannibal theory. I want to take a ride on the looney train too.
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@dacolombiano69 @GothamGroyperAF @mormonmommyuwu @NintendoAmerica im a stupid “libtard” but u cant spell cannibal correctly more than once..right
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Hello @NintendoAmerica , I am confused and frightened. This video has made me unlikely to purchase one of your products ever again.
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The White House@WhiteHouse
MAKE AMERICAN FARMING GREAT AGAIN 🇺🇸
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@freakph0bic @GothamGroyperAF @mormonmommyuwu @NintendoAmerica Ooh we're adding cannibal to deranged list of insults now too, eh?
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@theWellRedMage Zelda 2 is an action rpg. The rest are adventure games.
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@TheCinesthetic Two dudes pounding each other in the ass is not a gay story?
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@AirwingMarine And that sucks. It's happened to games I like too. But the media astroturfing on this game is unreal.
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Xbox also takes 30% just like steam. I suppose the deluxe edition is a good argument, but that extra 10million buffer I put in there would easily cover that.
You can estimate based of other AAA titles with a similar dev cycle.
Regardless of all that, if you took away the Xbox and Steam cuts AND every single copy sold was the deluxe edition, they're only at $72mil in revenue. You can't get more generous than that. That's totally unrealistic.
Again, I don't care how this game or bungie performs, it's just the reality of the situation. This game is in trouble.
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I took the family to see Project Hail Mary last weekend. For 4 of us, it was like $90 all in. That's for like 2 hours of entertainment....
I've got close to 200 hours now out of Marathon and I haven't even got to vault 7 yet, or VIPd every faction, or even come remotely close to every upgrade. That's alot for my $60.
Even if it dies after season 1, I'll have gotten more out of this game than most others titles that have lasted a decade.
It's a ton of fun and it'll move the genre forward even in the unlikely event it gets the plug pulled.
ExoGhost@ExoGhost
Marathon keeps losing players everyday Game is dead. At this rate, it will be cancelled in a few months. Nobody wants to play it. Those who try to play it quickly realize it's garbage and stop
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Okay. So do YOU think that 1.2 million copies sold at around $30 can support a 300 person dev team with a 5+ year dev cycle +marketing? Again, BUNGIE is 850 employees. The marathon dev team is 300.
Obviously there will be future monetization thru microtransactions, but even going that route....they're only hitting 40-44k concurrent players on steam charts (where the vast majority of the players are).
How much do you think the dev and marketing costs are? Because by my count, they've only made 40-50 million in revenue (not counting revenue from microtransactions). And the 50mil end is GENEROUS.
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Past tense because I got tired of the travel and 70 hour work weeks. I could walk in and get a job this afternoon at any of the large firms if I wanted to.
Everyone, even you, know engineer estimates are a fucking joke in the industry, so quit trying to make it sound like you have any idea how to estimate real costs
You can't even comprehend complex hourly rates, ramp up, ramp down, or shared costs.
You have no idea what the staff rates are, what the divisions in class are, how much was contracted out, how much is deferred, and what was shared on other projects.
You also have no idea what their monetization plan is, what their revenue goals are, or what time frame they are comfortable with.
You done typical "engineer math" that is barely above the complexity of the rest of hobbiests on this site.
There is a reason owners get 300 mil engineer estimates, but the competive bids never come any where close.
Ass hats like you think your actually smart cause you can do engineer calcs on a computer now. Then when you get called into a meeting to argue with guys like me you end up looking like fools. Every. Single. Time.
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Dude. You don't know wtf I know. And I noticed you used past tense there. With your math, I can see why that is.
Also, dipshit, to your original claim....300 is the MARATHON team. BUNGIE has 850 employees....so it's even WORSE if you factor in that the work that the 300 employees did SHOULD be covering at least SOME of the overhead of the rest of the company.
They're not even breaking even at this point.
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Because I do know how to estimate costs. I spent a decade doing it in one of the most difficult industries to do it in, heavy civil construction. My job was often to correct engineering firms dog shit estimates that ALWAYS failed to take into account anything more complex than (hrs x $).
Owning an engineering firm means you know how to do simplistic estimation with no complexity, and it shows.
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