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@gagemurphy777 @sympractical @laethcore Lewis, or at least Lewis’s Digory Kirke, seems to think it is the case. For when they discover the more substantial world behind Narnia he remarks that it is all in Plato.

@DallasBHartmann @sympractical @laethcore John Vervaeke insists Plato’s Cave is a parable rather than an allegory

knowledge is remembrance as the philosopher says. and this ironically enough contradicts the idea of perfect forms, since by definition they cannot be experienced, and thus are outside the realm of memory.

@sympractical @laethcore Things are interpreted according to what they are not whatever they’re supposed to mean.

@sympractical @laethcore Thats an example of the differences between reading something “symbolically” versus “allegorically”. Whether Plato meant it “allegorically” I don’t know (that’s a question for historians and might be undecidable) but I don’t think the story means what many take it to mean.

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Not cutting your hair is about not looking in the mirror. I’m seeing many implications in this.

@philo_hawk And redemption. Abel’s blood cries out from the ground. Overlooking does not mean ignoring and can mean overseeing or to supervise and by extension to care for. It about covering the facts in the process of time.

The Devil is in the details. Death is in the details.

@douglaswils @MrBully67 The authority of the written word has the tendency to give authority to them gifted/trained in the word. When the Word came he taught not as a scribe but as one that had authority. Look for a man who comes in the name of the Lord, let him only speak in truth and humility.

“Just as John the Baptist pointed to Jesus without outranking Him, so also the Church pointed to the Scriptures in the Canon without outranking the Canon” (Papa Don’t Pope, p. 40).

@sympractical Little yin-yang action. Very “time-y” thinking. Everything secretly implies it’s opposite. It’s tough to cover everything.

So in choosing a standard, one also implicitly chooses the playground

When you make something a “standard” whatever you put on the standard will have room to “play” and will involve some level of contradiction. Like a vine winding around a pole, which springs off into multiple fruiting branches.

@annielcrawford “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” I find you to be well within your liberty (while I have not seen the video yet, I perceive that you are yet alive in the Spirt, if I be not overbold, judging by your countenance).

@annielcrawford I think we may be permitted to sit under the shadow of a tree and read De rerum natura, if only as a fiction, should we fancy it or whatever else we like, in the kingdom of God.

I am glad to see critical engagement on the topic because it is complex and I have no desire to encourage occult practice. However, given the unkind, rather snide comment about my smile - I am just naturally demonstrative person - I am not sure I can expect to find a good faith interlocutor. The conversation was too short to fully articulate my view, which in short is this: Given participation in the Eucharistic Divine Liturgy, there is no place for esoteric practice. All the good dreams and intimations of the pagans have been fulfilled in Christ.

@PLeithart The church of the Lamb of God

The mutual hostility of Protestant and Catholic in the 16th century “arose from a commonly held love of the Church, which drove all Christians to a desperate but divergently pursued search for the authentic Bride ... Catholics accused Protestants of having run off with a 'whore' (Luther, Calvin, sola scriptura); Protestants were certain that the real Bride was not dressed in papist robes. Both, however, knew that divine beauty was conferred upon a person only as that person was identified somehow with the ecclesial woman embraced by her divine Bridegroom. Both believed that God’s glory and love were wrapped up essentially with the Church.” -Ephraim Radner

@annielcrawford All of Rob Gardner’s “Lamb of God” but especially “Hosanna” (it really brings alive the spirit of the triumphal entry for me). youtube.com/playlist?list=…

Tell me about your favorite songs for Holy Week. I'm planning services and love to hear what songs people love.

@PLeithart Reminds me of the money and cup Joseph had placed in the sacks of grain to trap his brothers. However, in this case, though initially regarded as a curse, they are eventually received as a blessing once the brothers have proved themselves and Joseph, in turn, reveals himself.

"I will curse your blessings" (Mal 2): A terrifying judgment. When we don't hear, set our hearts to the Lord, give glory to His name, He turns the things that enrich life, the very things we receive as gifts from Him, into traps.

@gagemurphy777 I’m guessing this conception of paganism is behind Lewis’ prescription that “we shall have to set about becoming true Pagans if only on as a preliminary to becoming true Christians.” crystalkirgiss.com/2022/12/23/c-s… Especially worth considering as we approach Easter

The most contextually relevant framing is Original Participation per Barfield. The question surrounding Tolkien can be answered easily if one sees his work as having an “inkling” of Final Participation.

@annielcrawford 😂 too bad… for us and the internet

You know what I was thinking way back in 2024? Wow, the world really needs more content. I sure have a deep hankering for more content. If only we could have more content, then everything would be so much better. Wouldn't it be great if we diverted land and water resources to the creation of vast amounts of content?

@PageauMatthieu @DaddyBu7 @clrk_o @OnTheBogLol The story of Shechem ben Hamor taking Dinah is another example of this pattern of forced integration of “pre-potential” @gagemurphy777 Note, the donkey is a primitive mount. It can be understood as an image of “raw flesh” or “raw earth” (pre-potential at different scales)

@DaddyBu7 @clrk_o @OnTheBogLol The snake in the story of Adam and Eve represents (among other things) divination. It's about getting something before you are ready for it = pre-potential. This is what Joseph experienced in his dream. It's the cause of all the rest of the story.

Michael Ward on the intrinsic poetic meaning of the world: "The world is charged with meanings that are given by the nature of the things themselves. Onions and roses have essential or substantive qualities that inhere in the very objects that they are. We can’t make onions and roses mean whatever we like.” "Roses have certain meanings that are simply given, – meanings that are not given by onions. The scent, the fragility, the mystery of a rose as it slowly discloses its heart, – these are its data. These inescapable, ineradicable real-life qualities of a rose must be recognized and respected." “[Roses] should not be treated as if they were interchangeable with the qualities of a certain strongly-flavored vegetable of the genus Allium. "This is common sense. That roses mean something different from onions is a fact handed down to us from time immemorial; it is part of the tradition of human perception which could not have been otherwise."

@chh2oman Benjamin is the least of the seed of Jacob… this makes me wonder about the establishment of the kingdom in Saul’s day.

@PLeithart The matters of the people that Moses must judge are like the animals that Adam must name

Jethro plays Yahweh's role in Exod 18: It's "not good" (lo' tov; cf. Gen 2:18) for Moses to judge the people "alone" (levaddekah; cf. levaddo in Gen 2:18). Jethro is an anti-serpent, anti-Eve. Yahweh commends Moses for "hearing the voice" of his father-in-law (cf. Gen 3:17). Surely this isn't a one-off. What other echoes of Eden are evident in this section of Exodus?