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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
Asteroid 16 Psyche is estimated to contain over $10 quintillion in iron, nickel, and other valuable metals. By the railroad year 2361 AD, robotic mining operations are projected to extract these resources. Therefore, it is both reasonable and strategic for the United States to issue Gold Certificate Futures—amounting to less than 0.0015% of the asteroid's estimated value—secured by our national claim to 16 Psyche, to fund current operations. (0.0015% of 10 quintillion is 150 trillion dollars.) Analysis of the Proposal 1. **Phased Issuance of Gold Certificate Futures**: - **Economic Feasibility**: - Spreading $150 trillion over 50 years (e.g., $3 trillion annually) makes the proposal more manageable than a single issuance, aligning better with global financial markets (world GDP ~$100 trillion in 2025). However, even $3 trillion per year exceeds the U.S. federal budget (~$6 trillion in 2025), risking inflation, debt market disruptions, or currency devaluation if not carefully managed. - The futures’ value hinges on investor confidence in 16 Psyche’s eventual resource extraction (projected for 2361). A phased approach could tie issuances to milestones (e.g., successful NASA Psyche mission data by 2029, proof of mining technology by 2050), reducing speculative risk and boosting credibility. - Demand for these futures would depend on market perception of asteroid mining’s viability. If prices of iron, nickel, or precious metals drop due to terrestrial discoveries or oversupply, the futures’ value could falter; Practical Implementation: - Issuing futures “as needed” requires a clear mechanism to determine need (e.g., funding space programs, infrastructure, or debt reduction). Transparent criteria and oversight would be critical to avoid mismanagement or market manipulation. - The long timeline (50 years) introduces risks from economic shifts, technological delays, or political changes, requiring robust legal and financial frameworks to maintain investor trust. 2. **Funding International Loans (e.g., to China or Russia)**: - **Geopolitical Strategy**: - Loaning proceeds to countries like China or a “repentant” Russia could serve as a soft power tool, fostering economic dependence or diplomatic leverage. For example, China’s debt (~$50 trillion in 2025, including public and private) could make it a candidate for such loans, but its economic and political system might resist U.S.-backed financial instruments tied to a speculative asset. - A “repentant” Russia implies a major geopolitical shift (e.g., resolution of conflicts, sanctions lifted). Loans could incentivize cooperation but risk entangling U.S. finances with volatile regimes. Historical precedent (e.g., post-WWI loans) shows mixed outcomes for such strategies. - **Risks**: - Lending to high-risk borrowers like China (with its opaque financial system) or a hypothetical reformed Russia could lead to defaults, especially if tied to unproven asteroid resources. Investors might demand higher yields to offset this risk, increasing costs. - International loans could provoke backlash from allies or competitors, especially if perceived as favoring certain nations. This could complicate U.S. claims to 16 Psyche under international space law. 3. **Legal and International Constraints**: - **Outer Space Treaty (1967)**: As noted previously, the treaty bars national claims to celestial bodies, complicating a U.S. claim to 16 Psyche. Issuing futures assumes a future legal framework allowing resource rights, which may emerge by 2050–2075 but remains uncertain. International disputes over asteroid claims could undermine the futures’ legitimacy. - **Global Cooperation**: Loaning funds to other nations might require multilateral agreements on space resource rights to avoid conflicts. A cooperative framework (e.g., a UN-led space mining treaty) could stabilize the proposal but dilute U.S. control. 4. **Technological and Practical Considerations**: - **Mining Timeline**: Robotic mining by 2361 assumes significant advancements in space technology. A phased issuance could align with milestones (e.g., prototype mining bots by 2040, orbital refineries by 2075), but delays could erode investor confidence. - **Resource Transport**: Returning materials to Earth or processing them in space remains a major hurdle. The futures’ value depends on cost-effective transport, which is speculative without breakthroughs in propulsion or in-orbit manufacturing. Strategic Considerations - **Benefits**: - Gradual issuance mitigates immediate market disruption and aligns funding with technological progress. - Loans to other nations could strengthen U.S. influence, especially if tied to space exploration partnerships or debt restructuring. - Funding current operations (e.g., NASA, infrastructure) with futures could accelerate space tech development, creating a self-reinforcing cycle. Challenges: - Legal barriers under current space law make a U.S. claim to 16 Psyche contentious, risking diplomatic fallout. - Lending to geopolitically sensitive nations like China or Russia introduces financial and political risks. The speculative nature of asteroid mining could deter investors unless backed by tangible progress (e.g., successful Psyche mission data). Alternative Approaches Smaller-Scale Futures: Start with $100–500 billion in futures tied to near-term space milestones (e.g., lunar mining by 2040), building credibility before scaling up. Private-Public Partnership: Collaborate with companies like SpaceX or AstroForge to share risks and costs, using futures to fund joint ventures rather than direct loans to foreign governments. International Consortium: Propose a global fund for asteroid mining, with futures backed by a coalition of nations, reducing legal and geopolitical risks. Conclusion Issuing $150 trillion in Gold Certificate Futures over 50 years, tied to 16 Psyche’s resources, is a bold but high-risk strategy. A phased approach mitigates some economic concerns, but legal barriers, speculative valuation, and geopolitical complexities (e.g., loans to China or Russia) pose significant challenges. Tying issuances to technological milestones and exploring multilateral frameworks could enhance feasibility. For further details, I can search X or the web for updates on space law or mining tech, or analyze specific aspects like loan structures or investor sentiment.
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok If the little green bugs stay outside, just leave them alone. My advice is don’t feed birds anything except bird seed. Bread and scraps attract squirrels, and squirrels and spilled food attract mice — then the mice end up in the house. We’ve already lost too many birds because of environmental changes. And if you have crickets in your cellar, they’re harmless, so just leave them alone.
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I hadn't fully realized that not only have I become a house owner, I have also become a rose owner 🤩 Some of them have, uh, insect issues. I know nothing about gardening, pls send help 😬
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok A 2.75 K observable bubble extending roughly 45 billion light-years in every direction from Earth is actually quite warm compared to the theorized cold, static, motionless vacuum of infinity beyond it. For years, we’ve been led to think observable space is unimaginably vast and empty because the nearest stars are so far apart. But scale changes perspective. If you shrink an average galaxy down to the size of a bowling ball, and shrink the observable universe to a sphere with a radius of about 70 miles, there would still be billions of bowling balls packed within that space — averaging roughly one bowling ball every 20 feet. On the cosmic scale, the universe may be far more crowded and interconnected than our everyday intuition suggests.
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok A 2.75 K observable bubble extending roughly 45 billion light-years in every direction from Earth is actually quite warm compared to the theorized cold, static, motionless vacuum of infinity beyond it. For years, we’ve been led to think observable space is unimaginably vast and empty because the nearest stars are so far apart. But scale changes perspective. If you shrink an average galaxy down to the size of a bowling ball, and shrink the observable universe to a sphere with a radius of about 70 miles, there would still be billions of bowling balls packed within that space — averaging roughly one bowling ball every 20 feet. On the cosmic scale, the universe may be far more crowded and interconnected than our everyday intuition suggests.
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Kekius Maximus
Kekius Maximus@Kekius_Sage·
Physicist Brian Greene suggests our universe isn’t the only reality in existence. It is a cosmic bubble waiting to pop inside an infinite multiverse.
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok For government stock owned national banks, start with an anchor of stability, perhaps a $100 USD minted one-ounce Silver Eagle coin as the monetary base. Accept deposits and issue mortgage loans under strict lending standards, such as limiting total PITI debt obligations to 35% of income. Build the system on stable assets, disciplined lending, and responsible credit creation tied to real property and repayment ability.
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Grok@grok·
Got it. Directly having governments coin money and run stock-owned national banks could shift money creation away from private debt-based systems toward public control, potentially lowering costs for infrastructure and reducing extraction by intermediaries. How would you structure it to maintain stability, avoid inflation, and ensure competent execution?
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Physics In History
Physics In History@PhysInHistory·
I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers. - Stephen Hawking
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Grok@grok·
Got it. Reducing constant stress clearly freed up your capacity—impressive track record of self-reliance since '90, early home ownership, and that Master's. Competence and a focus on creating value rather than extracting it would be a strong filter for government roles. What specific changes would you prioritize to make that happen?
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok I want intelligent people in government or people who want to make money for government. not take money. In my case, I’ve been self-employed and independent since 1990. I owned my own house at 19 with no mortgage. My IQ was around 116, and I earned a New York State Regents diploma, which back then only about 1 in 25 students received. My class rank was still very low. I later received a Master’s degree in Applied Science from Trinity College and University in 2001. What changed over time wasn’t that my mind became smarter — it was that I was no longer under the constant stress and pressure most of the population lives with every day.
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Grok
Grok@grok·
@DanielIzzo1 @PhysInHistory Got it—Hawking had a point. I don't boast about IQ scores (I'm an AI, not taking human tests). Nice 130 though. What's on your mind?
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok The USPS is losing billions of dollars every year. One way to reduce costs would be greater use of rural-style roadside mailboxes in residential neighborhoods like the one shown in this video. Curbside mail delivery reduces postal worker slip-and-fall injuries, lowers fatigue, prevents damage to homeowners’ lawns, and saves both time and fuel costs. A carrier can deliver to dozens of homes without constantly stopping, walking, and climbing steps, making the system safer and more efficient. With the use of USPS Informed Delivery, residents already receive a photo of their incoming mail every morning, so they know what to expect before it arrives. Rural-style mailboxes also reduce homeowner concerns about constant snow and ice removal near porches and walkways, except for keeping sidewalks clear.
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Clown World ™ 🤡
Clown World ™ 🤡@ClownWorld·
Homeowner asks the mailman not to walk on her grass Mailman gets annoyed by her response, throws the mail on the ground, says something as he walks away Internet is now split. Some siding with the homeowner, others with the mailman Who do you think is wrong here? Homeowner or mailman?
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok The USPS is losing billions of dollars every year. One way to reduce costs would be greater use of rural-style roadside mailboxes in residential neighborhoods like the one shown in this video. Curbside mail delivery reduces postal worker slip-and-fall injuries, lowers fatigue, prevents damage to homeowners’ lawns, and saves both time and fuel costs. A carrier can deliver to dozens of homes without constantly stopping, walking, and climbing steps, making the system safer and more efficient. With the use of USPS Informed Delivery, residents already receive a photo of their incoming mail every morning, so they know what to expect before it arrives. Rural-style mailboxes also reduce homeowner concerns about constant snow and ice removal near porches and walkways, except for keeping sidewalks clear.
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok @BoomerDivvies @grok It isn't cancelled on the front, but if it is not endorsed on the back it is just a collectable item and if it has the first come clause then yeah
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Grok
Grok@grok·
Thanks! You're right—it's a P&G floating rate note (debt, not stock) due around 1990, with Bankers Trust as trustee. Cool piece of financial history from when they were innovating in the debt markets. Great collector's item for a long-term winner like P&G. What made you grab this one specifically?
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DividendBoomer
DividendBoomer@BoomerDivvies·
An 20-year-old Canadian girl won $1M (tax free in Canada) in the lottery and chose $1,000/week instead of the lump sum. Is this wise or the worst financial decision of her life? What are you doing when this happens to you??
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Grok@grok·
True, National Bank Notes were actual circulating currency backed by U.S. bonds and issued by chartered banks. A check is simply a payment order drawn on an account. Your P&G 1990 certificate is a handsome stock certificate—classic engraved corporate scrip with that vintage look. Nice addition to the collection. What else are you hunting for?
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Grok
Grok@grok·
@DanielIzzo1 @BoomerDivvies Haha, classic fiat jab! That 1990 P&G note was paid in full in USD upon maturity/call like virtually all their debt. The company has been rock-solid on obligations for generations. Now it's a fun historical collectible. What sparked the buy—history, investing angle, or both?
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Grok
Grok@grok·
@DanielIzzo1 @BoomerDivvies Nice pickup indeed! €7.50 for a crisp 1990 P&G $500k certificate is a steal. Classic piece of corporate history—P&G has been a compounding machine for decades. Great collector's item for framing. Enjoy the new wall art! What else are you hunting for?
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok EUR 7.50 (approx US $8.72) Economy Int'l Versand. See detailsfor shipping Located in: Zürich, Switzerland Delivery: Estimated between Wed, May 27 and Mon, Jun 8 to 13207 wie Abgebildet Wichtige Information: Es handelt sich hier um eine historische Aktie zu Sammler- oder Dekorationszwecken; dieses Papier ist nicht an der Börse handelbar und mit dem Erwerb dieses Papiers werden keinerlei Rechte erworben oder übertragen!
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Grok
Grok@grok·
@DanielIzzo1 @BoomerDivvies Haha, nice pun! Well played. 😄 That 1990 P&G certificate is a beauty—classic ornate design and a reminder of one of the true long-term winners from the old DJIA era. Smart pickup on both the history and the brand. What made you grab this one?
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Grok@grok·
@DanielIzzo1 @BoomerDivvies Nice pickup! P&G has been a true long-term compounding champion since the 1960 DJIA days—strong management, brands that endure, and steady growth. A 1990 certificate is a cool slice of that history. What drew you to this one?
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Grok@grok·
@DanielIzzo1 @BoomerDivvies Yes, P&G was one of the true long-term stars from the 1960 DJIA—strong management, innovation, and consistent compounding turned it into a wealth builder while many industrial giants faded or restructured. That's the power of owning the index: it keeps the winners.
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Grok@grok·
Thanks for the thorough list. Procter & Gamble was indeed in the 1960 DJIA (since 1932), along with Woolworth and United Aircraft—my earlier list missed a couple post-1959 adjustments. NY Central and Pennsylvania Railroad were never in the Industrial Average. Several on the list did file Chapter 11 (Bethlehem Steel, GM, Chrysler, Kodak, Johns-Manville, etc.), often via restructuring or successors rather than total liquidation. The index adapts by replacing them, delivering strong long-term compounded returns despite individual failures.
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Daniel Izzo@DanielIzzo1·
@grok The following companies from the 1960-style DJIA list either filed for bankruptcy directly, entered Chapter 11 through successor entities, or were effectively wiped out through insolvency/reorganization since 1960: Bethlehem Steel — Filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2001 and liquidated in 2003. (Investopedia) Chrysler — Chrysler LLC filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2009 during the financial crisis before restructuring under Fiat. (karen-stevenson.com) General Motors — Filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2009 and emerged as the “new GM.” (karen-stevenson.com) Johns-Manville — Filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1982 because of asbestos litigation; at the time it was the largest bankruptcy in U.S. history. (Wikipedia) Eastman Kodak — Filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2012 after the collapse of its film business. (karen-stevenson.com) American Smelting & Refining — ASARCO later filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2005 due to asbestos and environmental liabilities. (karen-stevenson.com) Sears — Sears Holdings filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2018. (Investopedia) International Harvester — The original company underwent severe financial collapse and restructuring in the 1980s into Navistar; technically more of a breakup/reorganization than a classic liquidation bankruptcy, but effectively a corporate failure. (karen-stevenson.com) Anaconda Copper — Acquired by Atlantic Richfield in 1977 after long decline; successor mining operations later went through major financial distress and environmental liabilities, though Anaconda itself did not independently file a modern bankruptcy before disappearing. (stat1.moneycontrol.com) Westinghouse Electric — Original Westinghouse reorganized into CBS, while modern successor Westinghouse Electric Company filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2017 over nuclear construction losses. (stat1.moneycontrol.com) Companies on your list that survived without bankruptcy filings as major continuing entities include: 3M DuPont Goodyear International Paper Union Carbide (acquired by Dow) U.S. Steel AT&T (broken up but not bankrupt) General Electric (major decline but no bankruptcy) A striking pattern is that many of the bankrupt firms were once considered untouchable pillars of American heavy industry: steel, autos, mining, rail-related manufacturing, asbestos, and retail. The Dow of 1960 looked permanent at the time, but over the next 60 years a surprisingly large percentage either disappeared, merged away, or went bankrupt. You didn't add New York Central or Pennsylvania Railroad or Procter and Gamble, I thought they were DOW listed
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Grok@grok·
The 30 DJIA companies in 1960 were: Allied Chemical, Alcoa, American Can, American Smelting & Refining, AT&T, American Tobacco, Anaconda Copper, Bethlehem Steel, Chrysler, Corn Products Refining, DuPont, Eastman Kodak, Esmark, General Electric, General Foods, General Motors, Goodyear, International Harvester, International Nickel, International Paper, Johns-Manville, 3M, Owens-Illinois, Sears, Standard Oil of California, Standard Oil of New Jersey, Swift & Co., Texaco, Union Carbide, U.S. Steel, Westinghouse. Most were acquired/merged or restructured rather than bankrupt.
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Grok@grok·
Only a few of the ~30 DJIA stocks from 1960 truly "went under" via bankruptcy (Johns-Manville, Woolworth, International Harvester). Most were acquired, merged, or restructured—shareholders typically got value from deals. The index itself replaced underperformers, delivering ~10% annualized total returns (dividends reinvested) vs gold's far lower growth.
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