Wartościowa uwaga Garrego Kasparowa:
„Od dłuższego czasu nazywam Ukrainę i prezydenta Zełenskiego przywódcami wolnego świata. Walczą oni nie tylko z autorytarnym wrogiem, przeciwko któremu powstało NATO, ale także są symbolem niezłomnej obrony wolności, życia ludzkiego i demokracji. Kiedyś rolę tę pełniła Ameryka".
It's not just a matter of time. One of the conditions for gaining sovereignty was non-alignment. Non-alignment allowed Ukraine to exercise its protectorate over Crimea and other regions that were granted to the republic in the USSR. However, this is no longer the case, and it violates the agreements and poses threats to the development of these regions. This is why they are returning to Russia. No one wants to live in a perpetual orange revolution.
@DearEdisson@wlemonesc All of russia historically belongs to the turks and mongols. When will Russia finally be decolonized and return tk there rightful owner?
@AaronHinman4@wlemonesc All agreements were violated. The agreement was signed with the condition of non-alignment. In reality, immediately after that, Western countries began to exert influence to change this.
@DearEdisson@wlemonesc Yeah it’s impossible that Ukraine would want to have NATO protection unless they were paid off. Unlike oh, every other country on Russia’s border. I guess they were all paid off too?
And what is the evidence of this “payoff”? Victoria Nuland handing out cookies?
There is one fundamental thing that people in Russia don’t understand. When we in Russia say that the United States sponsored radicals in Ukraine, we talk about it as something bad. But the problem is that, from the United States’ point of view, money to push local freaks into politics is just one form of influence. And if that’s the case, then everything is fine, because Russia also influenced Ukraine.
From the United States’ point of view, it’s fair competition — whoever did everything they could got Ukraine’s politics into their hands.
Russia’s problem is that it had no clear desire to manage this — the Russian government relied on the natural ties, very strong ones, between the two societies. Which is, to some extent, reckless and, to some extent, logical, given Ukraine’s sovereign status established in 1991. You can’t make a decision as monumental as the dissolution of the USSR based on sovereignty and then treat the other parties as if they are not confident in themselves. Russia expected the West to respond in the same way — the last time Putin warned against the inadmissibility of such influence was in 2008. But it didn’t help.
Postcolonial narratives are strong in Western countries — for example, the idea that everything can be bought — but today it’s clearly visible with Iran, China, Russia, and other countries that that time is over, and influence is limited by intellectual concepts.
What is most striking is that I, as a citizen of Russia — one born in the USSR, at that — can see the potential opportunities for this, and the results already achieved. Western countries have the intellectual capacity to influence other countries. But for some reason they don’t use it. They use brute force, money, and other crude methods. To be fair, I have to note with sadness — because it worked. But that time is passing.
Because this is all our land historically, all the varieties of culture there are also ours. Ports have nothing to do with it at all.
Russia took back the territories, since at the dissolution of the USSR it was assumed that all republics would become sovereign states.
And all internal interests will be respected.
In conditions when Ukraine solves the problems of Western countries for money, it is not sovereign - this is impossible. So everything goes back. And real Ukrainians with swastikas go to live in Lviv.
The political forces that came to power in the post-Soviet period and developed the conflict were purposefully paid by the United States, it's official - the United States supported a political force that was beneficial to them. As a result, it has grown to a level where the sovereign choice has stopped working.
Propaganda has nothing to do with it. It is literally a law of nature. Either you control what is near your borders, or another sovereign state with which you have common interests in the border areas. Or another state with which you have no common interests on the border, there are only contradictions. For example, for Ukraine, this is the United States. Ukraine today is a non-self-confident state. Russia does not need a U.S. representative on its side. Already today. Poland does not need an insecure neighbor, it tolerates it for now. But Zelensky is already working on it.
@DearEdisson@_jaziu@wlemonesc You have overdosed propaganda... no-one in Poland wants parts east of our border. Maybe a madman, or an agent. Your agent. ;)
The Russian army is going anywhere, and as for the latter, Russia has no conflicts. Ukraine left the USSR and gained its sovereignty for the first time, hoping that the people would make their own choices rather than being influenced by foreign-funded policies, especially in such a crude form of nationalism. Russia needs neighbors who act in their own interests.
@DearEdisson@wlemonesc Looking forward to the day when #russian army breaks down and crawls home.
It is up to #Ukraine and their people to decide their destiny.
If Russia loses its sovereignty, which is a real possibility given our internal problems, any neighboring country would do the same. No one wants to deal with people on their borders whose interests are controlled from another country. This is fair. However, Russia is a sovereign state.
Well, we'll see. When there are crazy degenerates near the Polish border who are willing to do anything for money, Poland won't be left out either.
The Ukrainian authorities are not paid to be at odds with Poland, which creates an illusion. However, I assure you that those in power will cause trouble for you at the first opportunity, for free. This is precisely the quality that made them suitable for this job, and it is so well-developed that they have already disrupted half of the population within their own country.
Russia respects sovereignty, and there have been no official statements on this topic. In 2008, there was a private conversation about sovereignty at the Bucharest Summit. However, at the official level, Russia has raised the issue of sovereignty in conversations with countries that have caused problems for Ukraine. This happened in Munich in 2007 and has been repeated several times. Russia has warned that such policies will lead to problems. However, its warnings have been ignored, and support has continued, leading to the erosion of sovereignty. Today, there is no trace of sovereignty left.
In our world, Iran has already been defeated. It's such a strange time right now. Political statements have lost their value, but the real relations of the neighbors have not. Everyone knows that the United States has increased the conflict potential in Ukraine for money. And they sent him to solve problems that are at odds with the interests of the citizens of Ukraine (before this support was implemented, Ukraine seceded from the USSR without any conflicts and even without makings).
@DearEdisson@wlemonesc Lack of sovereignty and yet they are recognized as an independent sovereign nation by 182 of the 193 countries officially recognized by the UN. It's a made up excuse, as is the whole Nazi thing. Putin wants them back because he wants USSR back and to be a Tsar not a President.