@fufufavance @sugondese6666 Lah ini konsepnya mau ngikutin marinir Cina atau gmn dah? Biar apa coba camo biro? Ini beneran utk di lapang? (Pertanyaan jg utk Cina)
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DeltaDagger
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DeltaDagger
@DeltaDagger3
Just an average human being. Straight. Don't like silly extreme ideologies.
Katılım Şubat 2021
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@sugondese6666 hãy tìm vết gỉ sét trên khẩu súng đó đi 🤭 Điểm khác biệt là Việt Nam thực sự bảo dưỡng vũ khí, kể cả với học cụ (như những khẩu súng ở trong trường). Chứ không như Indog. Indog cười vì dân quân Việt Nam dùng súng cũ nhưng đâu biết rằng họ có cả RPG-7
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@Tsar_Rus2206 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 Completely ignoring their Eastern block 8×8 preference that has been mentioned multiple times. Why are Viets so dense, dear God.
Besides, the Marines are under the Navy who has been focusing on expanding and upgrading their fleets, thus putting the Marines on lower priority.
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@DeltaDagger3 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 if Pindad can make APCs then why the Marine had to buy BTR-4 and using 50s APC? Oh yes it's because the Marine so poor that they can't buy anything so they don't need it
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The Thai and Philippine Marine Corps utilize Landing Platform Docks (LPDs) and Landing Ship Tanks (LSTs) to conduct combined arms and modern amphibious warfare.
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@sugondese6666 So when Indo, it's "combined arms" and "modern amphibious warfare" When the other, its "Soviet-doctrince" Just for amphibious APC in service? That you have to go through such mental gymnastics?
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@Tsar_Rus2206 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 >"PiNdAd iS iNcOmPeTeNt CuZ tHeY cAnT mAkE aMpHiBiOuS ApC"
>they can, just nobody wants them so why bother making them?
>"bTr-50 LmAo"
>doesn't have to do with "Pindad incompetence"
>goes even more off-topic
>till refuse to address the OG topic
Just take the L already, bud.
GIF
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@DeltaDagger3 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 all of them are under license. And PT Pindad even had to buy UAE's 5.56x45mm and 7.62x51mm ammo technology in 2024 and you're telling me the same country can make all of those helicopters and planes? Sure thing you can make the fuselage and body but not those engines
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@Tsar_Rus2206 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 Can Vietnam produce its own fixed wing aircraft? How about rotary? Or LPD perhaps?
How about we go back to the wheeled APC issue? You lot insist that Pindad is inept despite there is simply no demand for amphibious 8×8 APC by the Marines to Pindad.
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@DeltaDagger3 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 simple, it's because we invested on the technology, not just buying others' stuff. Indonesia newest MLRS is RHan 122 while we can make the same thing years ago
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@Tsar_Rus2206 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 We're bringing GDP into the argument now? Bro is grasping at straws lol.
Compare the military budget instead of raw GDP. Indonesian military budget as of 2025 is ~$15 billion, while Vietnam is ~$10 billion.
How about you mind your own military instead of ours?
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@DeltaDagger3 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 yeah sure thing it'll make Indonesia more superior by comparing their army to a country that has 1/3 of their GDP
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@sugondese6666 @Tsar_Rus2206 @opammn @0bserver4 Yes but his point was that Kormar still use vehicles from the 50s for frontline service. Vietnam also still use vehicles from the 50s for frontline service so he has no ground pointing that out.
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@DeltaDagger3 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 we use them for coastal defense, not for them frontline combatants like the Marine lmao. Keep coping, we even decommissioned those BTR-50PK long time ago
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@Tsar_Rus2206 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 Yes? What does this have to do with "Pindad incompetence" because they allegedly cannot make amphibious APC? Which they actually can btw.
And I am not taking that from a country who still operate SU-100s and T-34s in active service. Sit this one down.
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@FrizQishh Why I dont want to interact with that cunt @RizkyAgungW5
Always weasels out and pull mental gymnastics to deflect. Look at what damage you have done. This kid already thinks half of Anoa APC in service with the TNI are amphibious, thanks to this video.
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MARKICAP@RizkyAgungW5
Saat anoa 2 bukan varian amfibi menerjang banjir untuk mendistribusikan logistik untuk pengusi banjir Ingat kata ini (non amfibi/bukan varian amfibi) Sedalem itu aja masih bisa jalan😅 By:wilson_19
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Kudo to Brazil, the amphibious APC Guarani truly fits in their Land Force for mobility. Philippine Army also bought 28 amphibious APC Guarani, an archipelago to boost. Something Indonesia keeps denying and labels as Soviet doctrine. Not realizing a huge market for export.
Defesa Brasileira 🛡️@DefesaBrazil
O Programa Guarani foi uma das melhores decisões estratégicas do Exército Brasileiro nas últimas décadas. Veículo de produção nacional, moderno e versátil. Da mobilidade blindada ao Implemento de Engenharia, um grande avanço para a Força Terrestre.
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@Tsar_Rus2206 @opammn @0bserver4 @sugondese6666 The Marines prefer 8×8 for wheeled APC, which is obvious from their BTR-80 and BTR-4. They are not interested in Anoa which is 6×6, simple as. And the Army is not interested in amphibious Anoa 2 either as it compromised personnel capacity. How many times do we need to explain it?
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Saya peringatkan China: Kapal-Kapal CCG dan PLAN Yang Berlayar Di ZEE Natuna Dan Mengakui Secara Sepihak Bahwa Laut Natuna Utara Berada Di Bawah Jurisdiksi China Bisa Langgar Piagam ASEAN
BeritaSatu@Beritasatu
China Peringatkan Indonesia: Izin Terbang Militer AS Bisa Langgar Piagam ASEAN #Bnetwork beritasatu.com/network/popula…
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@semuthitam60 @y0_tun @planetaneptunus @Gooren26 Indonesia gk klaim Mak Yong sebagai budaya asli dari Indonesia. Yang diusulkan itu Mak Yong dari Kepulauan Riau, yg memang beda dari Semenanjung. Kalau Melayu mau klaim batik ya silahkan, tapi sebagai batik Melayu, bukan batik secara keseluruhan. Klo kau pintar kau tau bedanya.
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@DeltaDagger3 @y0_tun @planetaneptunus @Gooren26 Ala ala jawir oi, cari la asal usul mak yong dari negeri melayu mana? Johor yg sebelah Riau aja gak ada mak yong.
Oh kalau ikut logik lu, org jawa, org minang punya hak la nak claim batik rendang etc la kan
Dari pak president sampai yg dibawah sama2 tohlol
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@semuthitam60 @y0_tun @planetaneptunus @Gooren26 Google gratis masih tolol. Orang² Riau itu juga Melayu macam kau, yang mengajukan itu Provinsi Kepulauan Riau sendiri, marah lah sama mereka sesama Melayu kalian itu.
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@SoccerenFTBL @Y_D_Y_P "Ngapain beli payung? Emang lagi hujan?"
-Warga Twitter yang katanya cerdas dan kritis
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@Y_D_Y_P mau tanya nih, emang kita beli MLRS gituan mau ngelawan siapa sih bang ? ya kalo model russia mah wajar tiap dekade ada event perang. lah kita ?
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Salah satu MLRS Russia, BM-30 Smerch, itu jangkauan maksimumnya 200 Kilometer. Sedangkan jarak Moskow ke Ukraina itu 600 Kilometer
Tapi Militer Rusia gak sebodoh itu nembakin MLRS ke Ukraina dari Moskow, dia geser ke dekat garis depan sesuai fitrahnya sebagai Artileri Roket
Sam Oip@piokharisma
Anjir lucu bangetttttt 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nembak dr Jakarta, mentok nyampeknya Purwakarta doang 😅
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@L4t3N1t3L4tt3 @no1melonlover Halah gk ada argumen bilang aja
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@DeltaDagger3 @no1melonlover terserah elu dah, tong.
Mute.
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Bedakan beli barang jadi dengan beli lisensi produksi
Latte a tarda notte@L4t3N1t3L4tt3
@DefTechDudes hubungan indonesia dg USSR rusak setelah 65. kalo anda jujur, kenapa gak sebut alutsista yg kita pernah dapat dari USSR sebelum 65?
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@L4t3N1t3L4tt3 @no1melonlover Ya itu objektif, bujang. Soviet percaya Cina bakal jd sahabat jangka panjang sampe mereka dgn sendirinya bantu bangun industri militer Cina jd salah satu pemain utama di Asia. Soviet butuh negara komunis yg kokoh di Asia dan Cina lah jawabannya.
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@DeltaDagger3 @no1melonlover kasih fakta dan argumen obyektif aja, jgn ditambah2in asumsimu. hub USSR dan China itu pasang surut.
lisensi produksi itu gak selalu menggambarkan kedekatan emosional dan ideologis antar negara. beli barang tanpa lisensi produksi jg gak selalu menggambarkan ketidakdekatan.
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