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Denjin Duke
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Denjin Duke
@DenjinDuke
The strongest of the 'Duken boys.
Charlotte, NC Katılım Nisan 2018
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@DenjinDuke @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson The convo was over at my first answer, Im just seeing how far our chatgpt gets you at this point.
Strikes dont beat throws in Tekken.
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We gotta bully tekken fans more
Alcratz@alcratz
Tekken is (traditionally) the only mainstream fighting game that doesn't play into an arbitrary triangle system, and much more closely resembles real world combat strategy. Like, actual strategy that's been studied for millennia, not the vibes-based video game kind
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@Moon2Bad @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson So you actually don't have anything to say? Steering towards a topic that isn't being discussed doesn't help you.
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@DenjinDuke @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Command grabs in DoA are basic forward and back grabs lmfao. I said that specifically because I know you don't play these games.
You don't play these games.
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@Moon2Bad @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Exceptions to the rule don't break the rule. Nobody is talking about command grabs except you.
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@DenjinDuke @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Strikes do not inherently beat throws in Tekken, which means it doesn't follow that triangle system. Unlike VF, SC, and DoA, throws aren't even inherently homing.
Even your other comment is wrong cause you can't break cmd throws in DOA
You do not play these games.
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@rafaelcout97595 @Sttarkson Lows do not break block, because you just have to react to the low, as 2D games react to overheads. Movement is irrelevant when you're balls-deep spacing which is often in T8. Mix-ups don't change the rule, they force a guess. Complications don't change the general rules.
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@DenjinDuke @Sttarkson and i don't even gone about, movement, frame advantage, stance mix ups and all the specifics interactions and flow from tekken tekken isn't a simple triangle fighting game, if you try to play tekken like you play VF an DOA you are fucking dead.
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@FunkyTK1 @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson In SF; jabs are 4f, throws are 5f. So no, throws are not faster than jabs. Strike beating throw is the rule of triangle systems, as I said.
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@thornzd @DenjinDuke @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Throws have a 12 frame startup, they get beaten by 10 frame jabs.
This is already better than say... street fighter, where Throws have a faster startup than even jabs. Strike beats Throw because you gotta get in range for it, where you can get hit in 40 different ways.
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@Moon2Bad @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Talking about the triangle systems, you have said nothing. There is no rule being broken, which is the point. Being invulnerable on frame 1 doesn't change the rule. Congratulations, you aren't engaging with the post.
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@DenjinDuke @thornzd @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson If you strike into a throw in both those games you are invuln frame 1.
You do not play either of these games.
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@keony2698 @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Welcome to fighting games! You're finally on track! Go ahead and play one for more than an hour and run against my single house ghost, hour against IRL opponents. Fightcade is your friend, come see me in Last Blade , where I will put you in the ends of time without question.
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@DenjinDuke @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson If tekken is not a deterministic science than RPS is in it and can not be avoided
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@keony2698 @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson The highest level of Tekken does have RPS? Despite it literally being stance 50/50, heat engage, stance 50/50, wall pressure, rage drive, stance 50/59, etc.? Show me the cush you smoke and the lean you drank. Nobody mentioned SF6, nigga.
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@DenjinDuke @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Tekken is under the laws of counterplay so RPS inherently exist. I never made an argument of literal RPS in mechanics like a sf6. Drive rush, Drive impact and parry. I was arguing against the very idea which the OP stated that at the highest level of tekken there is a lack of rps
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@keony2698 @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson I never said it was guaranteed, I lean into its likeliness that if you don't suck, You're arguing in my favor! The point that I'm making! Oh no!? My opponent has ways to adaquately respond to me via system mechanics!? Oh no~!
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@DenjinDuke @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson If offense could be guaranteed, the game would be a movie, not a game.
The reason it isn't guaranteed is because the opponent has counter-options. Oh wait RPS
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@keony2698 @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson "Oh no! I played a fighting game and can't guarantee how to push my offense or break my opponent's defense!" Reactions matter, habits or set play matters, knowing offensive patterns and limitations matters! You're bad, and suck off wikis without making your own bibles.
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@DenjinDuke @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson This is the problem words go far beyond their technical definition. RPS is simply x beats y but loses to z. Tekken has that and can never escape that. RPS is not a word to discredit skill its just the reality. Calculated decision making and being able to manage rps in your favor
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@keony2698 @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson Yes, but no; 6:4. RPS matters when mashing balls deep. When spacing and frame advantages matter, ROS is clearly weighted by frame data and reward/outcome. Only scrubs complain about frames, because they refuse to learn them.
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@dkyu3238 @DenjinDuke @Sttarkson anyone that thinks tekken was ever above RPS, simply never fundamentally understood fighting games.
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@DenjinDuke @dkyu3238 @Sttarkson strikes do not beat throws on a system level, throws do not beat block because throw breaking is on reaction, and you are ignoring the sidestep/duck/movement systems
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@Sttarkson Strike beats throw, block beats strike, throw beats block. Triangle. What's next, you're gonna say "But that's not arbitrary!"? Tekken isn't BJJ or Muay Thai, where offense is unmitigated. BJJ has the meme of guard-pulling, and Muay Thai has incessant clinching.
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@TheIshikawaRin "Oh no, the game that's been out for over 4 years costs $100 or less for everything?" Shut the fuck up dude. $6 per battle pass is cheap as hell. Gacha dudes spend over $200+ a month for waifus that disappear on EoS.
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They're adding live-service monetisation to Guilty Gear Strive, a game that already has really expensive DLC character packs... man.
Rad Chad@ThiccRadChad
My goat getting a battle pass
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@SavedAClickFGC The world needs hordes like lil bussy man in EVERY game to cleanse filth such as this.
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The fact this guy is telling people to 'pOsT hOuRs' in response to him blatantly admitting he hasn't played World Tour is quintessential FGC behaviour.
(The old lady takes care of Viper's daughter when she's on missions, by the way.)
KNXCKLE@KNXCKLE
I just realized there's a woman in the background here, does Viper have a girlfriend??
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@ShadowEliteHD The people good at Souls & Fighting games are also the people who enjoy tank controls. There is no cross contamination here. Only retards cannot adapt to controls that are not standardized across the board. They NEED everything to control like Fortnite/CoD to understand it.
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How is it that people can master Souls games and Elden Ring or can do intricate combos in Fighting games...
But can't master Tank Controls?
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@NYChrisG Rooting for Tyurara, Kshue, Daru, and Leffen. I hope Kshue wins!
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