Destiny1401

@Zirene we understood you cant put your hands on Carve Rune, but its unplayable if you dont have like 10 consistent targets. Maybe sth like 4p t3,5 "and lets raptor strike hit 2 additional targets for x %"

Hey @Zirene is it possible to think about some kind of cleave for Melee Hunters? Seeing those warrior numbers with Ashbringer makes us feel like we hit with a wet Ashbringer noodle even more, especially in cleave and aoe situations

@Zirene @MeleeSurvival So the only option at the moment would be to make carve stronger so we actually use it, but todays buff is not enough to do that. We would need something like "benefits from raptor fury" too to actually make it worth. Carve is still not strong enough now :-(

That is not an option for us either at the moment. There is a reason we have only swapped runes a handful of times and tried to do them all at once when we did do them. This is also why some runes stayed in bad slots for a long time. There are significant risks to swapping runes that include but are not limited to full bricking characters. So, the amount of oversight needed on changes like Runeswaps is very high with the associated risk. And doing it for one rune is too little, and doing it for a bunch of runes is out of scope right now.

@Zirene awesome change here....but still can't use it when Mongoose Bite is so important for DPS. We really need Carve to be a book like 3 phases ago.

@MeleeSurvival @Zirene My point with 2. is: Shouldn't a 2h hunter be competitive with the second best 2h weapon? as it is now, you have to play DW if you don't get Ashbringer and if you get ashbringer its hardly better than dw, but 2h is much more smooth and fun than dw

@Destiny14011 @Zirene 1. Making Carve baseline will fix this in part. Having it be supported in some way by either talents, set bonuses, or rune interaction will bridge the gap. 2. Meh, I'm okay with this. It's a legendary, it's for the prestige. You'll still be doing top damage.

@Zirene First, I want to say to you and the team, I really appreciate your work on SOD, especially for designing new content. However, there are a few things regarding melee hunters that I'd like to address in the comments:

@Zirene I love my melee hunter, but right now it's really a bit sad :(

3. The nerf to Lone Wolf was based on a bugged sim. Is there a way to revisit this and possibly reverse it? We're the only class that can only act as a dd and has neither the tank nor the healing option, and we do mediocre st damage and no aoe damage at all.

2. As a 2h hunter, you're only competitive in P8 gear if you get the legendary Ashbringer. Is this intentional? Even if you have Ashbringer, you're only marginally better than dw - it really doesn't feel good to obviously wait several weeks for Ashbringer to do similar damage.

Is there a way to baseline carve and/or have it benefit from talents so we can actually use it?

1. We don't have an AOE or cleave. As a 2h hunter, we simply play our 4-button rotation, and as a dw hunter, it's even worse, where we play our 3-button rotation. It really doesn't feel good to just play the single-target rotation with a group of 8 mobs.

@ChrisBarry82839 @Zirene @just_kni As we already have no aoe or cleave without changing 3 runes, please at least let us do single target dmg with a legendary weapon🥴😓

@Zirene @just_kni Man this missed hard. Hunter is the only DPS class that can't even change roles. Requires a highly contested legendary to do bottom half DPS at best, and ranged is even worse.

@Zirene Infusion of Souls seems pretty underwhelming for any caster that is not mage, since it requires you to have 50% haste to benefit from it. I was exited to use it on my spriest but its probably worthless right now.