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@CraftyAdrian360 I finish uncut gems on a random weekend. I’ve waited 7 years for denji to do the right thing because the polemic keeps getting shoved in my face and now fujimoto is calling me an idiot for believing Denji was ever going to do the right thing. Because the REAL morale is: . . . . .

Chainsaw Man fans be like “Uncut gems sucks, the characters don’t learn their lessons and stay horrible people” when that’s the whole fucking goddamn point of the movie is showing how greed and winning big can drive a man into madness to the point of no return.

Ive come to the realization that i am Pochita. That im so fed up with CSM part 2 as a whole that the only healthy thing i can do ATP is leave. All this fucking nonsense back and forth every week of Denji’s bullshit, and PubSafs/ lil Ds plans that accomplish nothing. I miss Asa.

@MEATMAAAAN More or less. I’m for a version of CSM where Denji eventually chooses normalcy. This chapter tells me its impossible. So impossible that Pochita has to make the choice for him. But when your reading week by week can you blame audiences for waiting to see if he does right?

@DoI_GAF Well, yeah, it seems like a you problem

Not really sure why people are struggling to understand Pochita's logic here when this has been the Whole Thing for a good while

@MEATMAAAAN The convo that precedes it. A lapse in memory, I suppose normalcy and being CSM have always been juxtaposed. Which means I’ve always been invested in reading a loser. The cause for most of my anger. Always believing in a version of Denji that failed to exist

@DoI_GAF Where he was at the end of part 1:

@cowp54 @ok_kicky @MollyCAvenue @Manstarlol Who presents that dilemma? What causes that friction to exist? multiple government and supernatural entities set up these circumstances. Regardless of that however you’re right. Denji does choose sex over Nayuta.

@DoI_GAF @ok_kicky @MollyCAvenue @Manstarlol In part 2 his life falling apart was by a very direct result of his actions he was told multiple times he could live a normal life with Nayuta if he stopped being csm

no call me stupid but genuinely why did pochita do that I don't get it at ALL

@MEATMAAAAN IE Nayuta exists to be dressing for denji. The entire cast of CSM exist either to highlight how bad of a person denji is, or to inflict suffering upon him. 100 chapters of Denji regressing from where some expected him to be at the end of part 1 for what purpose.

@DoI_GAF Because it's complex. yes, he loved nayuta, but that doesn't mean he was actually fully happy with his circumstances. He always felt he could get *more* and his way of getting that was through being Chainsaw Man

@MEATMAAAAN Yes it’s the exact reason Nayuta is not with us today. WHICH SHOULD BE MEANINGFUL! WHY IS NAYUTA RELEVANT AT ALL IF POCHITA IS HERE TRYING TO GAS LIGHT ME INTO BELIEVING NAYUTA DIDNT MAKE DENJI HAPPIER THAN DYING OF HEART DISEASE! WHY IS HE TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE ENTIRE STORY?

@DoI_GAF And look how much he lost for it

@MEATMAAAAN Also accept that it’s entirely possible two people read the same piece of media and walk away with different things. That by discussing media with others you learn new ways to appreciate something you already love.

@DoI_GAF "Lucid and clear and commanding" when one of the only things that kept him focused was trying to pursue sex through his identity as csm. I genuinely feel like we've been reading two different stores

@MEATMAAAAN Soul denji’s conversation with Asa, Denji venting about his previous relationships with Women Denji saying he’ll make a new world for people like Asa (the only outcome I’ll accept out of 232). His speech about good days and bad days (Chp 127).

@MEATMAAAAN look at the “I love you this much” panel. He was most definitely a dad, lots of accidental kids have fathers that run away. Denji is not obligated to follow Kishibes request. He pursues an education just because the justification is silly doesn’t mean it’s not meaningful 2him

@DoI_GAF He didn't exactly have a choice when taking in Nayuta, he pursues an education because he never had the option before? I still don't see how this leads to him becoming a father

@MEATMAAAAN Like he’s lucid and clear and commanding at the start of part two and on occasion afterwards, but Pochita(fujimoto) tells us that it was all unsuccessful, we’ve made no head way in the direction of fulfillment or growth. Sorry guys, oh btw there is one more chapter.

@MEATMAAAAN I’ve no more energy for paragraphs. But, he takes in Nayuta for a reason. He pursues an education for a reason. The advice he gives Asa for overcoming her guilt is not the traditional idea for maturity but it’s an approximation.

@I__HATE_SOCCER Remind me what Pochita side of the contract is

Boy is addicted to the struggle of being chainsaw man and that is something that has hurt everyone around him. Pochita is still a devil and when his side of the contract ran up he gave denji a forced out. Denji will not suffer by being chainsaw man if chainsaw man doesn't exist

This ending is kinda cheeks because it's coming out of nowhere, but not because the writing is bad. I have seen people shitting themselves over denji "not developing" and wow surprise that was kinda the point the entire time.

@MEATMAAAAN I think you hold CSM in such high regard that you see other people who love this shit just as much as you do disagree with you and that is displeasing to you. No one is ignorant or stupid for picking up a book and understanding different things.

@DoI_GAF I think you picked the wrong manga tbh

@MEATMAAAAN It’s impossible for the core theme of a story about a teenage boy to be that he grows up?

@DoI_GAF That was never even a possibility of a correct theme

@MEATMAAAAN Unfair to ask readers to invest more in a serious that constantly plays with your investment. That intentionally wants to make you confused/conflicted, so much so that it’s willing to step in a narrative noose, upon which a part 3 would be wholly unsatisfying.

@MEATMAAAAN Because it’s destructive in a way that disturbs me. Distill Pochita comments to their most basic elements and the result is that all the weight and import of part 1 was ineffective. Power, Aki, Asa, all of them don’t elevate denji to a point beyond where he was at the start

@MEATMAAAAN Re-interpret people “misunderstanding” the chapter with the palpable RAGE so many people feel over learning everything was meaningless (plot was forget broader themes atp). Maybe they don’t want to understand Pochita because it’s unfair.

@MEATMAAAAN Because he didn’t grow happier, he didn’t actual mature, he didn’t actually learn, he didn’t do anything meaningful for 231 chapters because at the end of the day the solution to the problem of Chainsawman is to have no chainsawman.