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Dale Staten

Dale Staten

@Dstat_THR

Father - Husband - USAF vet - Tobacco Harm Reduction Consumer Advocate - 13 yrs smoke-free - An informed nobody - Ask me about #SaferNicotine #vapingsaveslives

Portland, Maine Katılım Eylül 2009
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
@FalkenVape @bakerbee1 @kimber792 I got into it with a guy that said PG rots teeth. Took a picture of the ingredients on Colgate showing PG. He said yeah big toothpaste companies do it on purpose, so you have to keep buying their toothpaste!
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Falken Vape
Falken Vape@FalkenVape·
@bakerbee1 @kimber792 Or using toothpaste (that contains the same ingredients as an e-liquid) before cleaning your teeth, but hey, why science when they can do billboards.
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
@_DaveCross_ @bakerbee1 And probably held focus groups about which messaging would deter the respondents the most, whether true or not.
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Dave@_DaveCross_·
@bakerbee1 😂 Meetings were actually held about this nonsense!
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
I was prescribed amphetamines in grade school, no nicotine then. Studies show nicotine improves sustained attention and concentration in non-users with attention deficits (like low-attention groups or ADHD traits), not just withdrawal relief. It hits similar brain pathways. Dependence risk is real, but effects/benefits aren't imaginary for everyone. I also ENJOY using it in this way and I'm not interested in stopping. I wanted to stop smoking because my health was declining and it was literally killing me. Not any more. And I'm not going back to amphetamines to function normally. If there are people who truly want to stop, but can't, you should continue helping those people meet their goals. For the rest of us, you shouldn't be telling us what we are allowed to enjoy or find personal benefit in continuing to use with little to no residual harm in the risk/benefit analysis.
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Adam Nogender
Adam Nogender@Adamnogender·
@Dstat_THR @nigelrudd @ChaunceyGardner @grove_mitchell Although there maybe various factors contributing towards difficulty to concentrate etc is not reasonable to suggest that addiction to nicotine may well be a substancial cause? Especially, if you notice a reduction in distraction with each dose?
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Charles A. Gardner, PhD
Charles A. Gardner, PhD@ChaunceyGardner·
New Study: Nicotine vapes are not as dependence-forming as cigarettes. Who knew? The authors are VERY good scientists, but continue to use the 1990s-era stigmatizing term "addictive." "Addiction among vapers appears to be lower than that observed among smokers." journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14…
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Adam Nogender
Adam Nogender@Adamnogender·
Yes, I know I can but due to a mixture of addiction and choice re benefits I choose and to some degree are compelled to continue. Given I receive actual benefits from it I continue in a moderated way. Smoking, vaping and other nrt dependencies have some simularities but the balance of positives and negatives are different and given this the ability to not do it is not the same either. Different addictions have different profiles. A heroin addict could make the same argument
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Adam Nogender
Adam Nogender@Adamnogender·
Yes, I enjoy one or two coffees a day even though it messes with my tummy. Vaping is similar in some respects like you say but there are some differences too. The balance between positives and negatives in one reason. Another matter is the degree of choice. As I preposed the positives are illusionary, the negatives understated and given all this the degree of choice is minimal. Its much better than smoking but still better without. Ive been going on about it to highlight that there are additional ways to be totally free of any of it. Thats providing even more choices for those who feel inclined to look into it. I think such information and the additional options such info opens up are very valuable and sadly not so widely known :)
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Charles A. Gardner, PhD
Charles A. Gardner, PhD@ChaunceyGardner·
Am I mistaken? It looks to me like more informed ex-smokers who quit with #SaferNicotine alternatives are suddenly more active on Facebook. Or did I just not notice so many of us before? FB used to feel icky to me. Now I think I see more of us refuting the disinfo there.
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
@Kurt_Yeo @EbonyJHilton_MD Abstinence of everything is the safest option. Drink pure water only. Eat only steamed veggies and grilled chicken. Don't drive/ride in a car. Don't even leave the house, for that matter. Furniture off gasses VOCs, get rid of it except pure wooden chairs. Etc, etc, etc.
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Kurt Yeo
Kurt Yeo@Kurt_Yeo·
Abstinence is the safest option, just as avoiding sex completely is the best way to prevent STIs, and avoiding drugs entirely is the best way to prevent overdose. But medicine is not practised in a fantasy world. It is practiced in the real world, where people do not always stop risky behaviours on demand. That is precisely why harm reduction exists. For smokers who cannot or choose not to quit nicotine, moving away from combustion matters. Smoking kills primarily because of burning tobacco and inhaling the resulting smoke. Pretending there is no meaningful difference between combustible cigarettes and lower-risk nicotine alternatives is not caution; it is negligence dressed up as purity. A physician should be able to hold two ideas at once: 1. Not starting is best. 2. For people who already smoke, reducing risk is still a medical good. Rejecting tobacco harm reduction while embracing drug harm reduction or sexual harm reduction is not consistency. It is ideology. I urge you to look deeper and compare your approach to real-world experiences, such as the 1.3 billion smokers and 8 million premature deaths that occur annually. If it was unattainable, then why do these numbers still exist?
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Ebony Jade Hilton, MD
Ebony Jade Hilton, MD@EbonyJHilton_MD·
The safest alternative to smoking is to not smoke. That is the option. And you are behaving as if that is an unattainable ask, but it’s not. Any form of ingesting toxic fumes into your lungs is not safe. Period. To suggest it is, as a physician, is absolutely reckless.
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@EbonyJHilton_MD @Algore09algor @jkelovuori I am talking about vaping, you would give accurate risk information before an operation, so why not for safer alternatives to cigerettes? It's a simple ethical question about providing accurate risk information. Vaping is, without doubt, safer; why obscure that information?

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Ebony Jade Hilton, MD
Ebony Jade Hilton, MD@EbonyJHilton_MD·
Vaping was sold to us as the “safer” alternative. But the data tells a different story. Lung damage. Heart disease. Nicotine addiction. And our young people are the most at risk. Get the facts on Second Opinion w/ Dr. Ebony Jade Hilton on the #BlackStarNetwork Thursdays, 11AM EST
rolandsmartin@rolandsmartin

Dr. Ebony Hilton breaks down what vaping actually is, its damaging effects on young bodies, how to spot signs of use, and the reasons it's so appealing. Knowledge is power when protecting our youth. youtube.com/live/J2Z4jvBbN… #SecondOpinion #BlackStarNetwork #vapingawareness

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Roberto Sussman
Roberto Sussman@RobertoSussman·
A lot of public health research and health activism spread unwarranted panic about metals in vaping. All studies conducted under appropriate methodological protocols detect metallic yields well below toxicological safety benchmarks. Studies reporting excessive yields show methodological flaws or tested devices previously affected by corrosion or contamination. We reviewed 12 studies doi.org/10.3390/toxics…. See also chemrxiv.org/engage/chemrxi…
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Lance Churchill
Lance Churchill@LanceChurchill·
Another doctor who makes uneducated and misleading medical claims: "University of New Mexico pediatric pulmonologist Dr. Michael DiGirolamo said among other claims, that the chemicals in vaping products can release shards of nickel, lead and other metals into the lungs and can expose the body to formaldehyde, a chemical known to cause cancer and other respiratory issues. He said he has treated children who have developed fibrosis or bronchiolitis obliterans —also known as “popcorn lungs” — while others required a lung transplant because the damage caused by vaping was irreversible." abqjournal.com/news/nmdoj-sue…
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
@RobertoSussman @LanceChurchill Follow-up question: If people clear these metal oxide nanoparticles just fine in cooking, atmospheric, etc. exposures, why are some making this same or lower exposure from vaping such a big deal when, as far as I know, levels do not exceed pharmaceutical inhalation limits?
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
@RobertoSussman @LanceChurchill Dr. Sussman, what does the science say about how well lungs/upper airway naturally clear these nano metal oxide particles from cooking fumes, air pollution, and vaping? How much gets retained long-term? Any literature on this process? Thanks!
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
@WinterBlues1104 @GhostofPrickles @DMUFC01 @0hour1 Basically they view it as a noble lie to stop undesirable behavior. Like a parent telling their child "If you tell a lie, your nose will grow, If you keep crossing your eyes, they will stay like that forever, If you don't wash your ears, potatoes will grow in them". Ethical?? No
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0HOUR1@0hour1·
Vaping now linked to more aggressive lung cancers.
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Southernvaper
Southernvaper@Southernvaper1·
VG, PG, & Flavorings. Hmmm The very same ingredients in a Nicotine Vape. No nic here. So why is @DrMakaryFDA not authorizing the very SAME in a vape? We know Nicotine is only dependency not addiction when the delivery is from a Vape and not cig. I found this at Walgreens.
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
@Southernvaper1 @DrMakaryFDA Yeah they are all over tiktok. Personal aromatic diffusers they call them. Exactly the same ingredients minus nicotine. Claim they cleanse the lungs, reduce stress, etc. They say " oh I'm not vaping, this is a personal diffuser". Ingredients show pg,vg, artificial flavor. Oh Ok👍
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Grok@grok·
Scenario: The person starts with Socratic self-questioning—"What exact oil-based additives are claimed in standard nicotine e-liquids, and what's the peer-reviewed evidence?" They dig into sources on e-liquid chemistry (PG, VG, nicotine, flavorings as core ingredients; no oils, which don't aerosolize safely). Confirming no such additives exist in regulated nicotine vapes (distinct from illicit THC cases), they exit the thread silently, updated by the facts.
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Dale Staten
Dale Staten@Dstat_THR·
Love the Socratic method.
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