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@tuninesia @inpic0 ولكن على اي حال فلن استمر في هذا النقاش لأن المصادر امامك اقدم الشهادات الجامعية واعترافات من ابرز المنظمات التاريخية والمجلات العالمية اذا اردت اعتبار الزيتونة اقدم جامعة فأنت حرة ولن استمر لأنني لا اريد فتنة اخرى بين المغرب وتونس يكفي مايوجد بين المغرب والجزائر

خريطة نشرتها جامعة أوكسفور لأقدم الجامعات العلمية في العالم التي لاتزال قائمة إلى الآن: - جامعة الزيتونة (تونس🇹🇳): تأسست عام 737م، وتعتبر أقدم مؤسسة تعليمية في العالم لا تزال قائمة. - جامعة القرويين (المغرب🇲🇦): تأسست عام 859م في مدينة فاس على يد فاطمة الفهري ( الفهري قبيلة تعود إلى فِهر بن مالك، من قريش ) معترف بها من قبل اليونسكو وموسوعة جينيس كأقدم جامعة تمنح درجات علمية في العالم. - جامعة الأزهر (مصر🇪🇬): تأسست عام 972م في القاهرة، وبدأت كمركز للتعليم الإسلامي قبل أن تتحول إلى جامعة حديثة تضم تخصصات علمية متنوعة. - جامعة بولونيا (إيطاليا🇮🇹): تأسست عام 1088م، وتعتبر أقدم جامعة في العالم الغربي. - جامعة أكسفورد (بريطانيا🇬🇧): يعود تاريخ التدريس فيها إلى عام 1096م تقريباً، وهي أقدم جامعة في الدول الناطقة باللغة الإنجليزية. أول ثلاث جامعات في العالم كانت عربية عندما كنا سباقين وكانت لنا الريادة

@tuninesia @inpic0 خطأ القرويين اقدم كجامعة فحتى انا استطيع انشاء جامعة في بناء روماني ولن تصبح اقدم جامعة ومع احترامي لتونس فأنتم من يحاول تزوير حاليا لأن مصادر وتاريخ معنا وليس ضدنا كم انه معروف ان فاطمة الفهرية هي من بنتها وليس في ذلك إشكال

@OustouraNary @FoxMed0 @rachidhoussain2 @inpic0 🤦🤦 اذا لماذا اول شهادة جامعية في تاريخ من القرويين ولماذا اليونيسكو وغينيس تعتبر اقدم جامعة في العالم هي القرويين

@FoxMed0 @rachidhoussain2 @inpic0 بل كان جامعة

@AbidiReda88418 @inpic0 هههه الأن دخلت الجزائر ايضا 🤦🤦 انتم اي شيء فيه المغرب تدخلون خشمكم فيه

@inpic0 الجامعات التي ذكرتها مؤسسة في العهد الاسلامي فيستحيل ان تكون اقدم جامعات في التاريخ يوجد جامعة في الجزائر مؤسسة من عهد النوميدي 200 قبل الميلاد ربما قصدك اقدم الجامعات الحديثة نعم

@DCoboce @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 It seems like our online debate could go on forever and we won't see eye to eye anyway. Regardless, I enjoyed the discussion with you.

@EchoPulse70 @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 The almoravid empire was as much morocco as the HRE was germany or the roman empire was italy

How come Morocco/the Southern shore has large population centres, but the Northern shore/Spain don’t? SOUTH 🇲🇦Tangiers: 1 500 000 🇲🇦Tetouan: 500 000 🇲🇦M’Diq-Fnideq: 250 000 🇲🇦Martil: 100 000 🇪🇸Ceuta: 90 000 NORTH 🇪🇸Algeciras: 130 000 🇬🇮🇬🇧Gibraltar: 40 000 🇪🇸Tarifa: 18 000

@DCoboce @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 You are literally saying that I am as Roman as the Italians. This is something even the Romans themselves would never have agreed with; they clearly distinguished between themselves and the rest of the empire

@DCoboce @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 No, where did you get that from? Those empires were centered in Italy; when someone wants to see the Roman Empire, they go to Italy, not Morocco. But the Almoravids were centered in Morocco their history and their descendants are in Morocco.

@DCoboce @MoPoppe81656 @Nassreddin2002 That’s exactly why I didn't tell you that Morocco is the Mauretanian Kingdom; because after that, we were literally just parts of another power and not a unified, independent power ourselves.

@EchoPulse70 @MoPoppe81656 @Nassreddin2002 Morocco as a nation didnt exist until the 1600, as spain didnt exist until the 1500 If you go by "ancestry" were do you put the line North africa was roman before it was arab, does all of morocco belong to italy?

@DCoboce @MoPoppe81656 @Nassreddin2002 and that’s not a bad thing; we were part of an advanced, civilized state for its time, with a rich history.

@DCoboce @MoPoppe81656 @Nassreddin2002 There was a Mauretanian kingdom even before the Romans. Aside from that, yes, Morocco was part of a power centered in Italy, But what makes Morocco unique is that it managed to persist as a unified state since the 8th century unlike Italy.

@DCoboce @MoPoppe81656 @Nassreddin2002 Soyou don't care whether it was a unified power or not. In your view, a country's history only begins when a new regime takes over. By that logic,when the Saadi dynasty's rule ended in Morocco, its history ended there for you,and a brand new history began with the Alawite dynasty

@EchoPulse70 @MoPoppe81656 @Nassreddin2002 The previous states collapsed and disapeared , so 17th century

@DCoboce @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 you asked if that makes Spain a thousand years old, and I told you: No, because it wasn't a unified power. It's true they were Spanish kingdoms literally founded by the ancestors of the Spaniards but that power was not unified until the late 15th century.

@EchoPulse70 @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 I said a kingdom , not the spanish kingdom Thus why spain didnt exist, nor morocco

@DCoboce @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 I don't know why you're having such a hard time understanding that since the Idrisid era, Morocco has been a unified and independent power unlike your example of Spain.

@EchoPulse70 @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 Thus morocco as a nation didnt exist until the 1600s

@MarocMillenR @Davidab79 @USWPColby Who is this 'we'? Hahaha, are you even Moroccan? And why are you speaking on behalf of the rest of the Moroccans

@Davidab79 @USWPColby We don’t want American bases in Morocco We have seen how GCC has been let down while being unfairly attacked because of those bases

I was pleased to meet today at the Pentagon with Mr. Abdellatif Loudiyi, Minister Delegate for National Defense, and Lieutenant General Mohammed Berrid, Inspector General of the Royal Moroccan Armed Forces, to sign the new U.S.-Morocco Defense Cooperation Roadmap. This Roadmap will guide our historic defense relationship for the next decade, building on a partnership that began 250 years ago when Morocco was the first nation to recognize the United States.

@faysola @USWPColby الله يحفضك خويا

@USWPColby We are fully ready. And your roadmap we will shove it right were it supposed to be, especially if our motherland is implicated. 1.2.3 viva bladi 🤍🇩🇿 Dima maghrib for the morrocan brothers and sisters 🤍🇲🇦

@M_gh_nyc @faysola @USWPColby خلي داك شي للحكومات هوما لي عندهم تأثير عليه ولله واخا نعياو نهضرو لا حنا لاهوما ذكشي لي غادي يكون مغديش يتبدل بينا ولابيهم

@faysola @USWPColby Morocco is only concerned about its Sahara. If you took your propaganda glasses off and looked at this more objectively it is Algeria that finances and funds a pseudo military that tries to (but fails) attack Morocco. The Moroccan king has repeatedly called for normalizing ties

@DCoboce @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 How can you call it a 'centralized nation' when it wasn't even unified until 1492 (with the fall of Granada and the union of Castile and Aragon)؟

@EchoPulse70 @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 Felipe's VI ancestors have ruled as kings of a centralized nation in the iberian península since the year 1010 Does that make spain 1000 years old?

@DCoboce @Yassine_Mxl @Nassreddin2002 while most of the south was under the rule of the Umayyad Caliphate (Al-Andalus) at the height of its prosperity.