Eden

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@Yagi_183 ハッピーエンド

1億年ぶりにR2やろうとしたが人がいなかったのでR1やったら強めのSylv使いと当たって楽しかった

@pink_clemonade_ @Heutnitra Locking out 75% of a character's kit behind invisible mechanics isn't fun.

@Heutnitra @EdenRivals this is a v reductive way to describe whats happening in the clips but youre literally right. characters have specific attacks (and grabs!) that are designed to beat floorhugging. im sorry OP cant spam safe, low% combo starters and get a free 60% like in rivals 1

Gave Floorhug 2 another honest chance. This game is confused down to its bonemarrow. I used to clip things like this as a for-instance of how bad the game "can" be, but this shit happened every other stock. Nothing satisfying, only mystery boxes of incoherent mechanics.

@SevenThomsen The release of Rivals 2 is the biggest ragebait of them all. What a disappointing game

@PLUSH_WITCH Didn't even know perfect shield did anything until it was explained to me. And even then it (and all the other 50 defensive mechanics) are inferior to holding down so why bother

@isthatvark Why is there an RNG factor that needs to be eroded in a fighting game

rivals 1 players will do anything but learn KD percents to erode the RNG factor of floorhug. my guy, it happens so much because you're mindlessly tossing moves out that clearly do not knockdown yet. You're avoiding the system entirely and crying about it existing.

I want to like this game so much, keep giving it chances and keeping tabs on updates, but after today might need to tune it out. Ran out of hopium when the only adjustment made to floorhug was some random number change from 27 > 26. It's a bad mechanic, everyone kind of knows it.

@Ryukred It's a mystery how this game can barely scratch 600 concurrent anymore

RIVALS 2

Legitimate question, how come everything is way slower in Rivals 2 when the game is inherently slower with the addition of shields

@0Lightrunner0 The game has so much more defensive depth than it needs with how laggy every move is. You have already have movement, parry, shield, ledge invuln, CC, floorhug, teching, tech rolling, rolling, getup attacks, etc.

@EdenRivals I get that they want the game to have defensive depth, but I don't think cc is the way to go. We already have parry, shield, and no recovery after wall jump. Like you said, landing hits with cc doesn't feel rewarding. I'd much prefer something like a defensive burst to add depth

I've been playing platfighters for 10 years, and at a high level for a few of them. Rivals 2 is the only game where me hitting someone seems to regularly get me punished. Every interaction feels like a feverdream. I want to like Rivals 2 so bad but it just has so many issues.

どんな論争が起ころうが誰一人としてR2がR1より面白いって言わないの面白いな

@Yagi_183 Agreed.

Absa触ったけどキャラ以前にR2のメカニクスへのイライラを再確認するだけだった

@CONEY You may have won neutral multiple times at kill%, but I held down and licked my A button better gg shake my hand.

When Rivals 2 is fun it's FUN but this CANNOT be the longterm vision there's an entire lost generation playing Down Tilt Game, I'm getting punished for hitting someone at 120

Melee needs to unironically end.

Rivals 1 balance to a strong move: Hey, why don't we make other moves which do the same thing just as strong in a different way? Let's be creative to keep everything feeling good. Rivals 2 balance to a strong move: idk add endlag lol

Rivals 2 has a good foundation but plays like sludge. Losing hope that the dev team improves anything. I don't like the game's direction at all. We were told for years Clairen had to be laggy in R1 because there's no shields. Now with shields, *everyone* is just as laggy. Uh ok

help

>Been wanting to play Orcane for 8 years >He is immune to changes for 8 years >Never bothered since other characters were more fun >Rivals 2 is released >No other character is fun >Finally decide to main Orcane >He is nerfed into the fucking soil for the first time in 8 years