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Elliot
@ElliotHWithers
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Farmers Branch, TX Katılım Aralık 2013
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At the end of it all, Antony Starr’s Homelander is going to join hall of fame castings, like RDJ with Ironman and Johnny Depp with Captain Jack Sparrow.
Phenomenal actor.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments This is true. We also got hacked by th cardinals so I would just say we’re not very good at hiding stuff
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Except MLB investigated both of our teams and only one was found to have cheated. Astros players admitted to cheating in the 2017 postseason.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments If they had any doubt at all why weren’t they changing their signs? Keuchel with a 2.90 ERA gives up 4 runs in 3.2 innings. They had to have known what was coming. Bellinger with a triple and home run? Yeah….
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments If the Dodgers knew for sure what the Astros were doing, why did Kershaw only change up his signs with baserunners on? Wood changed his signs because he was paranoid, not because he had proof.
How would Gattis know for sure if LA was cheating or not? He was never on the Dodgers.
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Yeah, so the only two teams to level cheating accusations against the Dodgers just happen to be the ones who faced the Dodgers in consecutive World Series, who were both found to have cheated. Please tell me you can understand why that is.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments I understand that *IF the dodgers were cheating I would also try my best to hide it less it be discovered that they were on equal terms the whole time and have no gripe at all. So either they were clueless victims or they got out-done at a game they both knew they were playing.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Plenty reports about camera room usage as well. You brought up Evan Gattis admitting to cheating. He also said the dodgers used cameras to steal their signs in the 2017 WS as well. You can’t take his word at one and not the other.
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments I think a distinction needs to be made about what the Dodgers were doing versus what the Astros were doing.
The Dodgers scouted opponents before games and baserunners legally relayed info from 2B.
The Astros used electronics during games & relayed info to batters from the dugout.
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@casperdatryhard @SadYuDarvish @BBGreatMoments You could communicate it different ways. “C’mon (player’s number) lets go” that’s a fastball. “C’mon (player’s name) atta kid” that’s an offspeed. That’s how a 3rd base coach could communicate the signs he’s actively stealing (legally). The Astros used banging.
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@ElliotHWithers @SadYuDarvish @BBGreatMoments Do you realize how much more extreme the real time sound queues and not needing a runner to be on second makes it?
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments That’s a what-if scenario. Doesn’t explain Game 6-7. Kershaw is a career 4.62 in the postseason and was known for playoff struggles before he ever faced the Astros. Several of those off-speed pitches were in terrible locations, pitch to Gurriel was right down the middle.
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Follow this logic: first team to four Ws wins it all.
There is evidence that the Astros cheated on the road, but assume they only cheated at home. Had they not cheated in Game 5 against Kershaw (51 offspeed pitches, 1 swing and miss), the Dodgers would’ve clinched in 6 games.
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@casperdatryhard @SadYuDarvish @BBGreatMoments Are you joking? They took illegal sign stealing strategies from the Yankees, including using the camera in the stadium. Red Sox used Apple Watches to receive info from camera room. real time feed and signaling the pitch into the batter through bangs was where they went beyond.
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@ElliotHWithers @SadYuDarvish @BBGreatMoments By taking sign stealing strategies that every team uses and are allowed but then taking it to the extreme by adding live video feed cameras to relay in real time what pitch is coming???
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Stole one on the road? Explain to me how they went into Dodger Stadium and used the system.
Up to you. Forbes ranks them 9th most valuable (up 2 spots) bleacher report from 2018 ranked them 15th by market size. That’s what they are viewed as historically, a small brand.
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Which ranking are you referring to that labeled the Astros 15th? Are we talking about best or largest?
The Astros got disciplined more than other teams because they were the only team that cheated throughout a postseason and stole a World Series.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Proof that he** (Luhnow) wasn’t involved
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Well Luhnow sued the Astros for 22 mil and accused Jim Crane and Manfred of using him specifically as a scapegoat with proof that we wasn’t involved. Joey Votto, Chris Sale, Kris Bryant and Chris Bassitt all said we were scapegoats.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @Thomas_Y_11 @MediaMenOnline @BBGreatMoments I don’t disagree. At least in that first title run.
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@ElliotHWithers @Thomas_Y_11 @MediaMenOnline @BBGreatMoments Comparing home-road splits, the Astros also did much better on the road in 2023. MMP’s batter’s eye was blamed.
They weren’t banging trash cans in 2023, right? This variance is completely normal.
The Astros were good without cheating, but the cheating helped them win it all.

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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Astros ranked 15th best mlb market. After years of unprecedented success. city’s population doesn’t measure the market for mlb.
“Disciplined” with sealed letters and warnings. Did they lose draft picks? GM? Manager? Just us? And we got the system from Beltran and the Yankees?
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments That false narrative about MLB protecting big brand teams and making an example out of the small market Astros is ridiculous when you realize:
The other 2 teams disciplined by MLB for illegal sign stealing are Boston and New York.
Houston’s in the country’s 4th-largest market.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @Thomas_Y_11 @MediaMenOnline @BBGreatMoments From regular season statistics because that was where most of the focus was but you definitely got me on the postseason stats. Still doesn’t explain how we went on the road and did it in yall stadiums
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@ElliotHWithers @Thomas_Y_11 @MediaMenOnline @BBGreatMoments “statistically the Astros as a team didn’t really do any better offensive using the system vs not.”
How did you come to this conclusion?

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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Well what would count as proof to you? Player testimony? Testimony from someone in the league office? Does it have to be in writing where the commissioner says “yeah the Astros are gonna be our scapegoats on this.”
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Still, no one has been able to prove me wrong.
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @Thomas_Y_11 @MediaMenOnline @BBGreatMoments Very fair. I’ll take this point of view over any (DUHHHHH BANG CHEATER). This is an interesting debate tho because statistically the Astros as a team didn’t really do any better offensive using the system vs not. Which makes it even more painful that they used it at all
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@Thomas_Y_11 @MediaMenOnline @BBGreatMoments Because baseball is a team sport, his stats are still tainted by the cheating scandal.
How many more at-bats did Altuve get because his teammates extended rallies by cheating?
How many more runs did Altuve score and many more RBIs did he get because his teammates cheated?
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@TonyCrenshaw22 @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments lol, it was more of the general narrative around Altuve, I thought you would understand that.
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@ElliotHWithers @RMartzall @cucklord99 @PaulCrane7 @BBGreatMoments Thank you for showing how insecure you are. I never mentioned Buzzers.
Even though Altuve didn’t use the system much at all, read the following:
Tony Crenshaw@TonyCrenshaw22
@Thomas_Y_11 @MediaMenOnline @BBGreatMoments Because baseball is a team sport, his stats are still tainted by the cheating scandal. How many more at-bats did Altuve get because his teammates extended rallies by cheating? How many more runs did Altuve score and many more RBIs did he get because his teammates cheated?
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