Emzen

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate How? If a body is more resembling of a cis female, by looking overall at the primary and secondary sex characteristics, including, but not limited to, sexual organs, hormones, genetics etc. How and why do you consider that body male?

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate Doesn’t matter what they resemble. Still male.

@lalilibi @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate I did not say that women are defined solely by the effects of HRT, I only corrected the previous person by adding some, but not all, other different effects. To assume that this is what I consider a woman to be is really bad faith

@Emzen449093 @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate A hole is not a vagina, look at you doing a double turn reducing women to made up vaginas, hormones, mood changes. You can describe a woman as that but a woman talking about her biological reality is reducing them to body parts. Harhar. Men really just love to gaslight as a hobby

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate You want to achieve the eradication of trans people, like nazis did!

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Oh, Sterilization of children is also not a thing that trans people want to achieve. I could very much say make the same infographic about you! You are lying, like nazis, you are transphobic, like nazis, you are bioessentialist like nazis, what else...

@GenderCthulu @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate That is still not a source to that claim!

@Emzen449093 @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate LMAO you don't know who that is?

@GenderCthulu @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate That is an unsourced claim by a lady, I can say that she is lying and for that, as we both have no proof, it means my claim is as good as hers

@Emzen449093 @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate So you're for child castration? youtube.com/watch?v=kuwOx9…

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate We can change most of it, to the point that, for example, a body of a trans woman is more resembling that of a cis woman than a cis man

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate So we agree? Grand. Humans cant change sex. Sorted.

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate And other stuff as well! Such as, depending on how many procedures such a person went through, a vagina, HRT also gives other effects other than breast growth, you know? Redistributed fat in a different pattern, widening of the pelvis, even mood changes and still other things!

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate “i have boobies I am woman!”

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate There it is! The nazi argument! You're the one who agrees with nazis actually, as they were vehemently against any research into allowing us to achieve more successful transitions!

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate We are mammals. Mammals cannot change sex you just agreed. Weird medical experiments that we do on mice are not something I want for human children. It’s giving nazi doctor!

@Jenwaynecleaver @GenderCthulu @Naeluckmate No one is doing sex operations on children, at most, they are given puberty blockers, which were already used in cases different than allowing a transgender child to make sure that they want to transition, by giving them more time while not making irreversible changes

@Emzen449093 @GenderCthulu @Naeluckmate Why do you think they’re trying to experiment on children? And why do you think it’s okay? You’re disgusting if you support that kind of medical negligence and abuse.

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate To the point that transitioned bodies are mostly of the other sex than the one they were assigned at birth

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate We can't change all of it, we can change most of it

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Calling someone slow or demented is an insult, I'd imagine so. Now why did you not mention saying that? You're getting so worked up over arguing with someone, you yourself consider 15 years old

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate is “talk to an adult” an insult to you? please calm down with the exclamation points and have a normal discussion or get gone

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Ah there it is! You invoke that we are mammals to say that changing sex is impossible, yet when I say that it is possible, you then distance us from mammals! Yes, we are not mice, we are mammals however, as you correctly pointed out earlier!

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate I don’t care what you would find cool. We are not mice. If you want us to go ahead with gross medical experimentation on human children and vulnerable adults so you can feel like a customisable fortnite character then at least say it with your chest.

@GenderCthulu @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Why can't we change them? We are getting closer to that, just so you know! We can do quite a lot in regards to changing sex of mice, they are not impossible to change ever, we just haven't found out the solution

@Emzen449093 @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate All primary characteristics. Sure you can fuck them up but you can't achieve the opposite.

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Oh! That makes you look way worse, throwing insults at someone you consider to be 15, I hope you stay away from children then!

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate sorry I didnt realise you were 15, talk to an adult in your life about the birds and the bees maybe

@GenderCthulu @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Oh, so you're a misogynist! the fact that you didn't disagree that you agree with the patriarchal narrative of what women are says a lot about you

@Emzen449093 @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Yes I know you like to reduce women to body parts.

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate In fact, we are quite close to changing sex in other mammals, as there have been successful experiments in making female mice grow testes. I think it would be quite cool to achieve such progress that we can become customisable game characters, you know?

@Emzen449093 @Naeluckmate because we are mammals, not customisable game characters