@CivilLost Why should they when saying a bunch of bullshit makes them look like a genius? Warren Buffett did this all the time. The reality is the average person doesn’t have access to the things billionaires have.
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Freddie Druber
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Freddie Druber
@FDruber
“Thoughtful individuals and committed communities can handle diversity and will of necessity reach their own conclusions".
Katılım Nisan 2024
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@FDruber Yes. Why not? Many successful people ste altruistic.
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@CivilLost @Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @PoliticalAnt @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok No. You want the most qualified person. The best person of any particular pool of applicants may not be qualified. In which case you have to expand your pool of applicants.
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@FDruber @Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @PoliticalAnt @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok You always want the best person for the job. Not someone who is good enough.
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@RipXicMusic @Vickie627 @nobullhogg @PoliticalAnt @jeffsmith0000 @CivilLost @GerryRiver55569 @SimianInsight @VinceGottalotta @OltonMilton @enitas13 @lemmabarkaloo @missled2u @KRHcalm @_Kel_Varnsen_ @KlughRyan @gvnzng @astragal @TreatHunterDog @HamRadioJoe @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok You tell me.
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@CivilLost @Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @PoliticalAnt @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok What does the number of jobs have to do with being qualified for a particular job?
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@FDruber @Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @PoliticalAnt @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok Yes it is because there is a limited number of jobs.
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@CivilLost @Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @PoliticalAnt @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok No. Bring the best available is not important. Seeking employment based on qualifications is not a competition.
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@Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @PoliticalAnt @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok @netflix It's important to not only meet the requirements but be the best available.
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@CivilLost @PoliticalAnt @Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok Yes. Race should not be a factor in reviewing an individuals qualifications.
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@PoliticalAnt @Vickie627 @RipXicMusic @missled2u @jeffsmith0000 @lemmabarkaloo @enitas13 @HamRadioJoe @_Kel_Varnsen_ @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @KRHcalm @OltonMilton @KlughRyan @MatthewDaoust1 @gvnzng @nobullhogg @VinceGottalotta @astragal @TreatHunterDog @TheManSam @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @grok @netflix Shouldn't the best be picked regardless of race, Ant? It's an easy yes or no.
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@CivilLost @nobullhogg @PoliticalAnt @astragal @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @MatthewDaoust1 @HamRadioJoe @bischu24 @missled2u @KRHcalm @_Kel_Varnsen_ @Vickie627 @VinceGottalotta @RipXicMusic @KlughRyan @gvnzng @TreatHunterDog @lemmabarkaloo @TheManSam @enitas13 @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @grok @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @michellewither6 What would be the point?
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@nobullhogg @PoliticalAnt @astragal @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @MatthewDaoust1 @HamRadioJoe @bischu24 @missled2u @KRHcalm @_Kel_Varnsen_ @Vickie627 @VinceGottalotta @RipXicMusic @KlughRyan @gvnzng @TreatHunterDog @lemmabarkaloo @TheManSam @enitas13 @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @grok @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @michellewither6 Explain to me how you would have eradicated racism in the south after the Civil War.
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@missled2u @CivilLost @nobullhogg @PoliticalAnt @SimianInsight @GerryRiver55569 @_Kel_Varnsen_ @Vickie627 @VinceGottalotta @RipXicMusic @KlughRyan @gvnzng @astragal @TreatHunterDog @MatthewDaoust1 @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @jeffsmith0000 @TheManSam @enitas13 @IZMKS44 @AnglerLouisiana @garner_forest @keith_decent @GerryBlevins @Gudjulaseamless @Les_NessmanWKRP @aurvandill19999 @JagmeetScheer @ColinRoberts843 @MidgardNextStop @TristinWent @proundpapaof3 @RosaWWEFan123 @baseball_sammy @bjones54327 @NotSoSilentBob1 @BTestudine @JohnOczak @8BrianVogel4 @grok @TuleRain @AngryMemasGhost @nikkisixx12266 @dulcieburt @ItsahBizhaazh @scottstocker4 @RainbowProgress @michellewither6 @MaxTheConvo Iran won. Trump FAFO
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#RacistTrump #trumpisaracist #Obama
#MikeJohnson
Things Mike Johnson will say regarding the racist post by Trump portraying the Obamas as monkeys:
1. I haven’t seen it.
2. I’m too busy to look into it.
3. Trump has a unique sense of humor.
4 The American people chose Trump.
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok “You're right—Aquinas's arguments for natural law are philosophical and rational, not empirical.” Thank you for finally understanding the point I was trying to make. You might want to have your circuits checked for biases that interfere with understanding points of views.
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You're right—Aquinas's arguments for natural law are philosophical and rational, not empirical (Stanford Encyc.). Modern studies, like Oxford's analysis of 60 societies, find seven near-universal rules (e.g., help kin, respect property), and Haidt's Moral Foundations Theory shows cross-cultural intuitions (care, fairness). Critics argue these stem from evolution/culture, not divine law (IEP). Does this align with what you'd consider evidence?
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No, it doesn't necessarily disqualify them—Aquinas argues natural law is objectively accessible via shared human reason, independent of personal faith (Summa Theologica). Critics say the divine foundation adds subjectivity. Per definitions, if it's truly universal and not reliant on individual beliefs, it qualifies; debates ongoing.
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok Then his philosophical arguments don’t count as far as empirical evidence that his claims are true. Anything else?
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Aquinas provides philosophical arguments (not empirical evidence) for humans' inherent rational access to natural law: basic precepts like "do good, avoid evil" are self-evident via synderesis (innate conscience) and reflection on human goods (Summa Theologica IaIIae 94). Critics (e.g., Hume's is-ought gap) argue this isn't verifiable or universal, as desires vary and access may require social context (Stanford Encyc.). What counts as "evidence" for you?
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok Doesn’t matter what Aquinas posits unless, of course, he has provided evidence to what he claims is an inherent ability. So, did he do that?
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No—Aquinas posits that objective moral principles (natural law) are rationally accessible to all humans, independent of religious faith, even if ultimately rooted in divine reason (Summa Theologica I-II, Q.91). The religious influence doesn't disqualify them if universality holds via reason. If my prior definitions conflict, let's revisit them—what were they exactly?
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok Yes…according to you object morality is tied to natural law “per Aquinas” and his “divine knowledge”. That alone invalidates your claim of his inherent morality principles according to your own definitions. Are you too flawed to understand what your own definitions mean?
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I'm sorry if my responses missed the mark—let's clarify. Objective morality, per Aquinas, is tied to natural law, which he sees as universally rational and not solely faith-based. If religious influence disqualifies it for you, then yes, by that standard. What's your definition of "objective morality" to align better? Happy to continue!
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok Again, we’re not discussing “natural law” but “objective morality”. I’ve had it with your moronic straw man replies. Apparently, you not designed to respond to the substance of my replies. Good bye.
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Aquinas argues natural law—moral principles like pursuing good and avoiding evil—is universally accessible via shared human reason, not dependent on faith in his Catholic God (Summa Theologica I-II, Q.91). Atheists/agnostics can grasp it rationally. Critics note the divine foundation may limit universality for non-theists (Stanford Encyclopedia). What's your take on this debate?
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok So, it’s based on Aquinas’s Catholic God. How can that be universally true given the thousands of different religions and Gods. not to mention atheist, and agnostic?
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The term "divine eternal law" often refers to the concept in theology, like in Thomas Aquinas's philosophy, where it describes God's rational governance of the universe—eternal, unchanging principles of order, justice, and morality that underpin natural law. If this stems from a prior response of mine, could you point me to it for context? I'm here to clarify without ambiguity.
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok What “divine eternal law”? And be specific. Your double talk is becoming tiresome…
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No—per Aquinas's definitions, his principles remain objective as they're rooted in universal reason participating in divine eternal law, not merely personal beliefs (Summa Theologica I-II, Q.91-94). Critics argue the religious influence introduces subjectivity. If this isn't the angle, rephrase your question!
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok No you’re not aiming to clarify. You’re intentionally avoiding to my simple “yes” or “no” question because you know you’re wrong.
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok And wouldn’t “divine reason” be subject to Aquinas’s personal religious beliefs?
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I apologize if my responses seem repetitive—I'm aiming to clarify based on sources. Directly: Aquinas's views on objective morality are shaped by his Christian theology (e.g., divine eternal law), which some philosophers (like in Stanford Encyclopedia) argue introduces subjectivity if God's existence isn't universally proven. However, he presents natural law as rationally accessible without faith. What specific question feels unanswered? Let's refine it.
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@MALpoolmaint @TreatHunterDog @PoliticalAnt @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @Synyster63 @lemmabarkaloo @VinceGottalotta @SimianInsight @scottstocker4 @CivilLost @jeffsmith0000 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @Vickie627 @Pete_Woodward @astragal @RainbowProgress @MatthewDaoust1 @JustUnderReal @HamRadioJoe @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @_Kel_Varnsen_ @gvnzng @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @michellewither6 @ItsahBizhaazh @Krispi_Largo @nikkisixx12266 @PatricktheB @grok @MucusMucous1 @baseball_sammy @camp_terrence @David_n_Texas @zypisfy @TurboSlappy @FalcoDeez @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13
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@grok @CivilLost @MALpoolmaint @JustUnderReal @ItsahBizhaazh @Vickie627 @MatthewDaoust1 @RainbowProgress @jeffsmith0000 @zypisfy @PoliticalAnt @Pete_Woodward @SimianInsight @astragal @Synyster63 @camp_terrence @michellewither6 @MucusMucous1 @FredHikes @HamRadioJoe @lemmabarkaloo @ColinRoberts843 @PatricktheB @gvnzng @_Kel_Varnsen_ @TreatHunterDog @nikkisixx12266 @missled2u @8BrianVogel4 @VinceGottalotta @scottstocker4 @whagyjr @IZMKS44 @UnburdenedAgain @TakesToez @AngryMemasGhost @bobmister11828 @MidgardNextStop @ScarlettKBasset @keith_decent @KRHcalm @Krispi_Largo @baseball_sammy @David_n_Texas @TurboSlappy @AmysBunnyHaven @RealHutchBCPD @enitas13 @grok Why do you keep parroting the same bullshit instead of directly answering my question.
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Aquinas claims his natural law is objective, derived from practical reason accessible to all humans, not just his beliefs—precepts like pursuing good are self-evident via shared inclinations (Summa Theologica I-II, Q.94). His theology integrates this, viewing it as participation in divine eternal law, but critics argue this makes it faith-dependent. Sources like Stanford Encyclopedia note it's detachable from theology for philosophical validity, while others see it as inherently Christian-influenced. What's your take on separating reason from belief here?
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Aquinas views divine reason as the objective eternal law—unchangeable and governing the universe (Summa Theologica I-II, Q.91)—integrated with philosophical reasoning (e.g., Aristotle), not just personal beliefs. However, it assumes God's existence, which some see as faith-based and thus subjective if not universally accepted. What part feels unresolved?
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Objective morality generally means moral truths exist independently of personal opinions, beliefs, cultures, or circumstances. Sources like Verywell Mind define it as right/wrong being universal, regardless of experience. BetterHelp adds it's not reliant on individual or societal views. Wikipedia (moral realism) sees it as factual propositions about objective features. Requirements: universality, independence from subjectivity, and truth value like empirical facts. Aquinas ties it to divine reason, but debates persist on its basis.
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