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Doug Couch

@FitArmy

Public Speaker, Body Architect, Haunt Entrepreneur, Networker, Educational Strategist, Bible Forensic Auditor

Nashville, TN Katılım Haziran 2010
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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
I am the Bible Forensics Auditor. I don’t do ear-tickling sermons or cosmic arm-wrestling matches. I audit the text like a crime scene. I trace every doctrine back to the evidence. And I call out the fraud when Zoroastrian dualism shows up wearing a church suit. Good and evil are NOT slugging it out for your soul. Satan is not God’s equal opposite. He’s a convicted felon on death row, throwing a scorched-earth tantrum because he knows he’s already finished. Your soul is not a trophy in some fair fight. It’s a jurisdiction issue. The transfer of ownership was filed, sealed, and paid in full at the cross. The paperwork is done. The only question left is whether YOU will sign it and walk free. No good thoughts, good words, or good deeds will save you. Only faith in the finished work of Christ. Welcome to the audit. Let’s rip the costumes off the lies. #BibleForensicsAuditor
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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
The “it’s just the Bible” objection assumes one book, one author, one agenda. It’s 66 documents. 1,500 years. Multiple languages. Hostile witnesses. Authors who died for accounts they could have recanted at any point. That’s not a library that agrees with itself. That’s a crime scene with independent corroboration. And for anyone who wants names outside the Bible – Josephus. Tacitus. Pliny the Younger. Suetonius. Not Paul. Not Christians. Not in your Bible. All of them corroborate the basic historical skeleton anyway. The “no evidence outside the Bible” claim is the one that doesn’t survive scrutiny. You just haven’t been shown the file.
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么 ꜱ ᴀ ᴍ ꪜ,
么 ꜱ ᴀ ᴍ ꪜ,@kaizen000000000·
“Do you have any evidence not from the bible?” No, but the New Testament….. lol 😂
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
“Knowing good and evil” isn’t moral kindergarten. It’s the Hebrew idiom for autonomous moral arbitration – you become your own god. They knew the command. They knew who gave it. The serpent’s exact sales pitch was “you’ll be like God, knowing good and evil.” He just repackaged the serpent’s argument and called it logic.
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Darwin to Jesus
Darwin to Jesus@darwintojesus·
If Adam and Eve didn't have knowledge of good and evil, how could they have known it was wrong to eat the fruit? This is a very common point made by atheists to try to discredit the Bible, but like most arguments atheists make it relies on their uncharitable misunderstanding or blatant ignorance of what the Bible says, rather than what it actually means. So let's address Matt. There are different ways a person can know something. Take the color blue, or love… you can know all about these things, but do you really "know" them if you’ve never experienced them yourself? My point is that Adam and Eve knew it was wrong to disobey God, but they didn’t know what it was like* to disobey God. In that sense, they did not have knowledge of good and evil. This is backed up in scripture, Eve has to be convinced by the serpent to eat the fruit because she knows God said don't eat it, and to eat it would be wrong. That's why the snake has to convince her to disobey God. It's only after they both eat the fruit that they know what it is to disobey God, which is why they hide in shame.
么 ꜱ ᴀ ᴍ ꪜ,@kaizen000000000

Even when I was Christian, the Adam and Eve story made no sense.😅 Religion is full of sh¡T

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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
Rome didn’t formally define its own canon until the Council of Trent – 1546 AD – in direct response to the Reformation. The argument “the Church gave you the Bible” requires you to believe an institution that didn’t officially decide what the Bible WAS until someone threatened to leave has ancient, unbroken authority over the text. That’s not tradition. That’s a 1546 reaction dressed up as eternal authority.
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CATHOLIC MAXIMUS
CATHOLIC MAXIMUS@EcciusMaximus·
THE BIBLE HAPPENED IN THIS ORDER: The apostles built churches FIRST…..then they wrote letters to those churches.....those letters then became the Bible, NOT the other way around. This proves Sola Scriptura false This is why Scripture says the Church (and not Scriptures) is the pillar and foundation of the truth.
Provisionist Perspective 🩸🌍@ProvisionistP

For the number of times that I see RCs saying “Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible” it sure leads me to the impression they don’t care much about it

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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
The energy finding is real. ENEA did the math. That part isn’t the problem. The problem is the leap. The man in that shroud has a full intact beard. Isaiah 50:6 says it was torn out. John 20:7 puts a separate face cloth folded apart from the burial linens – so how does a facial impression exist at all? Authentic ancient cloth. Unproven identity. Those aren’t the same case.
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Lion of Judah
Lion of Judah@divinethree333·
The Unexplainable Power Behind the Shroud of Turin Proves its Authenticity: How much power is 34 thousand billion watts of energy traveling at 1/40th of a billionth of a nanosecond? This instantaneous power is roughly 10 times the entire worlds electricity generation and consumption at any given moment as the global average electricity use is only 3 Terawatts. Imagine every power plant, solar farm, wind turbine, dam and nuclear reactor on Earth running at full capacity….then multiply that output by 10. Thats the power surge required to equal the power that created the image on the Shroud. Anything slower or less precise would have scorched, incinerated or damaged the fine linen. No natural process or current technology can deliver 34 Terawatts uniformly over a large area in a controlled 25 nanosecond pulse without scorching or destroying the linen. This is why the Shroud image remains scientifically unexplained by any known mechanism.
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
Let me be clear about what just happened here. A pastor just looked into the camera and told every woman who has ever served in public office, run a city, raised a family while leading a community – that she is God’s punishment. Not a blessing. Not capable. A rod. And he said it with a Bible in his hand. I audit the ancient record behind modern theology. That passage is a covenant-Israel discipline text. Written to a specific people, under a specific jurisdiction, in a specific moment of rebellion. It was never a universal prescription for who gets to lead a government. This is what bad theologians have always done. Find a text. Skip the chain of custody. Hand down a verdict that was already decided before they opened the book. Your mother, your sister, your daughter – they are not God’s punishment on anyone. The Bible deserves better than this. And so do they.
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Right Wing Watch
Right Wing Watch@RightWingWatch·
Christian nationalist Joel Webbon, who thinks women should not have the right to vote, describes women in civic leadership as a sign of God's punishment on a rebellious nation
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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
Dawkins is right that the answer he got was bad. He’s wrong that there’s no better one. The framework he’s critiquing – God demanded his son’s blood to satisfy his own anger – isn’t the oldest version of the theology. It’s a medieval legal construct called Penal Substitutionary Atonement, retrofitted onto an earlier model. The original framing was ransom theory: the death of Yeshua was payment made to a captor to secure a release, not a punishment extracted by an offended Father. Those are two completely different transactions. In one, God is the angry creditor who needs to be paid. In the other, God is the one doing the paying – to get you back. Dawkins asks “why didn’t God just forgive them?” The ransom model answers that directly: because forgiveness alone doesn’t break a legal hold. If someone is being held, the one who loves them doesn’t just declare them free – he buys them out. The transaction isn’t about God’s anger. It’s about jurisdiction. The apologist couldn’t defend it because he was defending the wrong version.
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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
That is completely fair and I hear you. If the only two options are random chance or a God who personally targeted you – I understand why random chance feels cleaner. At least it is not personal. What I am offering is a third option you may not have been handed before. Not random chance. Not divine targeting. But collateral damage in occupied territory under corrupt administration – with a God who is not the one who pulled the trigger, is furious about it, and has already filed the paperwork to end the whole system. That is not the same as Him picking on you. That is Him being as angry about it as you are. Whether that brings you comfort is yours to decide. I am not here to tell you how to feel. I am here to tell you the charge is being filed against the right defendant – and it is not you.
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Cothtwit
Cothtwit@cothtwit·
@FitArmy @kaizen000000000 He was talking about finding comfort, not moral justification. I have cancer and actually do find a little comfort in knowing it’s pure random chance that killed me. If I thought God made a conscious decision to do it, I’d probably be agonizing over why did he pick on me???
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么 ꜱ ᴀ ᴍ ꪜ,
么 ꜱ ᴀ ᴍ ꪜ,@kaizen000000000·
Note to Charlie Kirk worshippers: this is what a debate looks like.
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
@deepwebslinger How do you believe the words of the Bible and the image on the shroud when there are so many conflicts? Not trying to be a jerk but we definitely have a few major issues there. As a kid I carried a picture of that in my wallet. Just can’t get past all the discrepancies.
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DeepWebSlinger
DeepWebSlinger@deepwebslinger·
It still blows my mind: after thousands of years, the people, locations, and events match history with pinpoint accuracy today. Yet people refuse to believe! 🤯 Shawn Ryan's guest illustrates... #Yeshua
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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
Fair. You replied to my argument, not the post. I misread chain and I’m correcting it now. But that doesn’t touch the six rounds of argument. You came in against the shortcut framing. That’s where we started. What followed was you arguing the temptation was logically incoherent, then that God was gambling with eternity, then that foreknowledge makes any test fake, then that no valid measurement was produced, then that no internal pull was verified, then that no historical phenomenology is verifiable at all – which you then agreed applies universally. That last concession is still sitting on the table. If that standard applies fairly across all historical accounts, you cannot distinguish historical fact from fiction in any ancient text. That doesn’t vindicate your opening position. It eliminates your ability to make one. Correcting the attribution doesn’t answer that. That’s the argument. That’s what’s still unresolved.
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Godhead_Coach
Godhead_Coach@coachabdallah·
@FitArmy @kaizen000000000 I wasn't defending the post. I wasn't defending the host. I replied TO YOU. My very first post referred to the nonsensical nature of a "short cut" which YOU posited. Once again, attributing something to me that isn't true. All after were counters to your replies. No retreat.
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么 ꜱ ᴀ ᴍ ꪜ,
么 ꜱ ᴀ ᴍ ꪜ,@kaizen000000000·
That moment you apply logic and critical thinking to the Bible.😅🤦🏼‍♂️ Good thing about this caller is that you can hear him at least thinking about it... most don't even get that far.❤️
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꧁𝙶𝙾𝙳 𝚆𝙸𝙽𝚂꧂
@j0ker937 Everybody always loses me on the Yahweh sound when you breathe in and out. When I breathe in and out, it doesn’t sound like Yahweh it sounds like. Ahhhh hhaaaa.
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J∅kër Kîng 👑
J∅kër Kîng 👑@j0ker937·
No, really, this guy just dropped 7 mind-blowing facts, with at least 3 of them really leaving me scratching my head because I never thought of it like that. I hope you pay attention & let me know.
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
@j0ker937 400-500 contradictions depending on what you count, and that’s not a bad thing. A fictional book would have zero contradictions.
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
Read the post you’re defending. The caption on that video says ‘that moment you apply logic and critical thinking to the Bible.’ The host in that video said on camera – verbatim – ‘the story is obviously fiction.’ That’s the content you showed up to defend when you came at me. You don’t get to attack someone defending against that claim and then turn around and say you never made it. You planted your flag next to it. Own it or retract it. Now to your other two points. We were never debating whether Christianity is comprehensively true. We were debating whether the specific logical objections in that video hold up under scrutiny. They didn’t. You moved through six positions and abandoned each one. Shifting to a general epistemology challenge now doesn’t rescue any of those six positions. It changes the subject. That’s not a rebuttal. That’s a retreat with new scenery. And flagging a misattribution doesn’t reset six rounds of argument. If that’s your closer after all of this, the case is already decided. Six arguments. Six retreats. Now a procedural complaint and a subject change. The scoreboard doesn’t reset because you found a misattribution.
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Godhead_Coach
Godhead_Coach@coachabdallah·
@FitArmy @kaizen000000000 I didn't call it fiction, did I. And you haven't invalidated my statements. You haven't ~justified~ your belief beyond your belief, thus validated in Truth, beyond Lie, Hypocrisy, or Apathy to Truth, and may have just invalidated yourself by claiming I said something I didn't.
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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
@coachabdallah @kaizen000000000 Fair application of that standard doesn’t validate your argument. It invalidates your opening claim. You can’t call something obviously fiction if your own epistemology makes the category of historical fact unreachable.
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
You can’t verify anyone’s internal phenomenology from a historical account. By that standard every recorded act of human resistance in history is also an empty test. You haven’t found a flaw in the temptation account. You’ve invented a standard that makes all historical testimony about human struggle unprovable - and then applied it selectively to one text.
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Godhead_Coach
Godhead_Coach@coachabdallah·
@FitArmy @kaizen000000000 You haven't proven an actual feeling of temptation on Jesus' part. Maybe he rejected it all because he had no internal mental nor emotional pull to the offerings. So, no true value, yet again. Another empty "test".
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
You’re grading a courtroom oath on a classroom rubric. The test was never designed to measure anything God didn’t know – it was designed to establish a public record in a contested jurisdiction. Your measurement standard is irrelevant to the event’s actual purpose. You haven’t refuted the temptation. You’ve refuted a quiz.
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Godhead_Coach
Godhead_Coach@coachabdallah·
@FitArmy @kaizen000000000 It wasn't a real test of knowledge for the one taking. The teacher doesn't come away having any accurate measure of the acumen, skill, nor learned retention, of the test taker. A perfect score by way of given answers has NO validity to it. "You passed!" Of course they did.🙄
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
@coachabdallah @kaizen000000000 Your analogy proves the test was real for the one taking it -which is the only place ‘real’ ever mattered. You just described the Incarnation and called it a problem.
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Godhead_Coach
Godhead_Coach@coachabdallah·
@FitArmy @kaizen000000000 Entire statement was my "argument". If ~God~ knew how it would resolve, it was no TRUE test. If someone takes a math test, and are provided the answers to the test... is it a "real test"? Sure, the literal test ITSELF is, but the teacher KNEW the outcome of NO TRUE challenge.
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Doug Couch
Doug Couch@FitArmy·
You’re saying either it was planned (fake) or genuinely risky (God gambling). But foreknowledge doesn’t eliminate genuine events -it just means God knew how they’d resolve. The plan required a real test because a staged test proves nothing in a contested legal record. You haven’t found a contradiction. You’ve found the tension between omniscience and free agency that theologians have formally addressed for 1,600 years. Declaring it ‘nonsensical’ isn’t an argument -it’s a concession that you don’t have one.
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Godhead_Coach
Godhead_Coach@coachabdallah·
@FitArmy @kaizen000000000 But there couldn't be a shortcut if this was ALL ~God's~ plan. You are thus saying ~God~ just TRIED something HOPING it would work, and if it didn't we could literally still be in a situation of non-forgiveness and NO salvation, which could last LITERALLY forever. Nonsensical.
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Doug Couch@FitArmy·
@TheSCIF Bible- common man, needed to be pointed out, so most likely under 5’5, beard was plucked out, separate cloth on face, he didn’t have long hair (Paul 1 Corinthians 11:14) So you either believe in the Bible or the shroud.
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The SCIF
The SCIF@TheSCIF·
On Easter, A.D. 33, the superficial image of the Resurrection of Jesus was created on the Shroud of Turin. It would take 34,000 BILLION watts of energy, traveling at 1/40th of a billionth of a second to change the chemical makeup of a fine-linen shroud to leave the image that it did. We do not have that type of power on Earth. The Shroud of Turin is only .02 microns thin, and can be scrapped off with a knife, and science has proven it is not paint, pigment, die, and there are no brush stokes. What is most absolutely fascinating is that there is Type-AB blood all over the shroud. Which is a priestly line of blood, which is only 6% of the world's population and connected to Jesus. There is also a criminologist by the name of Max Fry who took pollen samples from the Shroud of Turin. He found 58 pollens on the shroud. 38 of them are from Jerusalem that only bloom in spring time during Passover. The last remaining 20 pollens follow the provenance of where the Shroud of Turin has been for the last 2000 years.
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