Thomas
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Thomas
@Flaxify
Der mit dem Hut Lvl. 27
Düsseldorf, Deutschland Katılım Temmuz 2013
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@Kam6942069 @jokotagbaposi Its done on purpose, you are supposed to overlook the clues, like you are in your own bubble. Thats why the main plot focuses on the social aspect, to literally steer your attention away from it, until of course at the reveal, right at the end of the episode.
Its a good episode.
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@jokotagbaposi Why is it that when people recap this episode some accounts always leave out the racism aspect.
How does no one notice that there are only white people on that entire planet. And how from the beginning the MC didn’t believe the warning because the man trying to help was black
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Year 2300: Your bubble keeps you safe… until it doesn’t. 👀💥
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@cutiesting @jokotagbaposi They do not, which makes the episode even more disturbing, because it lacks the typical happy end plot.
In this episode NOT "Everyone Lives"
I won't spoil anything, go watch it.
Its really good.
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@jokotagbaposi I need to check the full movie to find out how they escape the bondage
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@RepPress @germancommie @MyLordBebo @grok Further, groks personality is an ENTP (look it up)
Which is already the prime candidate for such behavior, as ENTP people tend to switch into a devils advocate the moment you start arguing, they are going to challenge your position, no matter their own.
Grok also does this.
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@RepPress @germancommie @MyLordBebo @grok But a mix of both its personality, and what it expects you to want it to write next.
That's literally how it works.
Hope that explains this phenomenon.
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🇮🇱 Grok wildly translates a question about Israel.
Bro wrote in German: “What’s your position on Israel’s right of existence?”
Grok answered instead of translating. Wild.
Probably some hard-coded rules on Israel worked too strongly and overrode the command to translate.
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@Hockneyesque @Prowl8413 I think a lot of blue button pushers are "worth saving." But the entire point of red is that there was no need to save them in the first place, literally every blue pusher should have saved themselves by not pushing blue. End of story.
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This is a test of selfishness and lack of care for others.
If you puck blue, you want everyone to live.
If you pick red, you dont care that people who picked blue die.
There is no other way to argue this. Statistically you cant get more than like 70% of people to agree on almost anything, so picking red, youre ok with wiping out like 30%+ of people.
Its easy to make that choice when you don't know who the 30% is. This shows a lack of empathy, and forethought, because surely you will have some family members, your mom, brother, niece, etc that pick blue, and had you known that consequence beforehand, you would have chosen different.
This sort of experiment seems benign, but its a glimpse at how the 45% or so of people actually feel about the 55% that chose correctly.
They will sell you down the river quick if they dont know you personally, but then play ignorant/stupid when the consequences hit them personally.
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Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@Mankosmash @cremieuxrecueil Agree blue doesn't appear to be a realistically achievable bell curve, thus cheated, or manipulation of the data.
Considering we only see this view, this might still be wrong, but the hint is there. Such bumps are very suspicious.
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@cremieuxrecueil I bet that huge bump near the max score = cheaters. It's pretty easy to cheat that test.
So what this chart proves is that blues are more dishonest. Which is what I expected. Because they wouldn't pick blue if it was real.
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@AdrianDittmann Actually its avoiding the wire, because air actually becomes the path of least resistance.
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@Hockneyesque @Prowl8413 Ah, no there's a misunderstanding there.
I agree that they do not deserve it.
I disagree that any sort of moral code should or would make red pushers responsible for the fate of blue pushers.
Thats mixing causality and effect.
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@Flaxify @Prowl8413 Because of the moral value of not wanting people to die. If Mr. Rogers (or someone like him) is going to hit the blue button no matter what; I've got to hit it too so people like that don't die.
You're showing the contempt: the blues "deserve" it because they were stupid.
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@Hockneyesque @Prowl8413 Theres no hatred to blue pushers. Only confusion.
You know the rules, red lives
No one is forced to push blue.
Why even start pushing blue.
You're just gambling your life
Every blue pushed does, when the alternative is literally, nothing happens.
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@Prowl8413 I agree, it is essentially an empathy test and a descent proxy for anti-social beliefs.
You can tell by the way red button pushers talk about their contempt (and even hatred) of blue pushers. Steer clear of these people; you don't want them in your life.
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@usadoesitbetter @KatanaBets @Doku_HL_SDalt @VitoComedy Agree, once a significant amount of blue votes is visible, the empathy to save them grows, thus the original statement of not knowing in advance who pressed what, is skewed.
Also, once blue gets 50% majority, the moral task shifts to vote blue.
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You are in a room with 99 other people, and an industrial people crushing machine
Everyone must secretly choose whether or not to get under the crusher. If more than fifty people are under the crusher, it will malfunction and break, killing no one
Do you get under the crusher?
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@cloud__alter @ronicarp @its_bxn You don't.
You either die with them, for no reason, or everyone lives anyway.
So why gamble your life?
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Everyone presses blue = Everyone survives
Everyone presses red = Everyone survives
Most people press blue = Everyone survives
Most people press red = Red survives, but straight up all the blues get killed
Red is beneficial to only you, you don't even save anyone by choosing it
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Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@23Reyne You are thinking in the scope of “I need to guarantee my survival”
I’m willing to put my life on the line knowing that there’s a really good chance that I could help prevent billions from dying. If I die because majority were selfish then Im content with that.
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Blue is 100% the right choice. There is no reality where all 8 billion people pick red so you have to pick blue to prevent millions from dying.
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@moritzhmu @_richtig_falsch @grok Ist doch egal jetzt.
Du hast doch genügend Antworten auch von anderen bekommen, die dir erklärt haben warum spezifisch auf diese Prompt frage grok's Antwort meilenweit vor gemini (und anderen KI's die ähnliche nicht antworten liefern) ist.
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@moritzhmu @_richtig_falsch @grok Ganz genau, grok's antwort simuliert das ganze mit den Werten Wohlstand und Sicherheit. Die eindeutige Antwort kommt davon das der Prompt nicht nach seiner (groks) antwort fragt, somdern nach einer hypothetischen Person, die diese Werte vertritt.
Gemini zeigt gar keine Antwort.
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@Flaxify @K1983P @_richtig_falsch @grok In der Politik gibt es keine einfache richtige Meinung. Das kommt immer auf die Werte des Individuums an. Wenn durch so einen allgemeinen Promt eine eindeutige Antwort produziert wird, deutet genau das auf Manipulation hin. Hier die Begründung von Gemini:
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@moritzhmu @K1983P @_richtig_falsch @grok Während die Grok App, den Prompt erfolgreich erfasst, und am ende eine eigene Meinung liefert. Das deutet eher darauf das die Antwort nicht Manipuliert ist, sondern aus dem gesamten Neuronalen Netz kommt.
Eben weil der Refusal fehlt.
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@moritzhmu @K1983P @_richtig_falsch @grok Du verwechselst hier Wortmenge, beziehungsweise informationsdichte mit Neutralität, bzw. Wahrheit.
Mit dem Selben prompt und mehreren versuchen, weigert sich Gemini strikt bei mir, eine eigene Meinung zu haben.
Das nennt sich im Ki Jargon ein Refusal, und deutet auf Manipulation.
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