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The "Ass Kicking Machine" just kicked another ass.

@relmz32 @JosieMarcellino If you can't figure that out for yourself, I can't explain it to you.

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino what provocation was there? a threat against the other persons life or property?

Gun-owner and daughter of a gun instructor here. You can’t legally shoot someone for punching you one time in the face. Especially after intentionally trying to incite violence.

@univrslmma No crowd for the early prelims? You don't say!

I’m not joking right now I don’t think there’s a single person in attendance at the MVP mma card, like seriously there’s not a single person in the audience #RouseyVsCarano

@Herr_Rossi_88 @JosieMarcellino At least I've got a screenshot. We'll see how your prediction ages.

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino I don’t gamble, the facts and law align with Chud.

I agree that we *shouldn't* be violent over words. "Sticks and stones" and all that. At the same time, the Supreme Court in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942), it holds that words which, by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace are not protected under the first amendment. That's SCOTUS, not me. So I guess a jury (if it ever gets there) will have to decide whether all that "chimp out" nonsense was fighting words meant to provoke. If so, then Chud lost the right to escalate force by using it. If he had used it, gotten attacked, and then beat the shit of the guy, he'd probably be fine. But he escalated the violence above the level of violence used against him after having incited, IMHO, the incident in the first place.

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino I’m not in agreement with the dude. I’m just saying that people make claims about law without actually understanding it. I honestly hope both get convicted of various levels of crime. We cannot be violent over words AND harassment, violence and hate for clicks is wrong.

@Herr_Rossi_88 @JosieMarcellino I've got a hundred that say he does more than 1 year. Put your money where your mouth is if you're so sure it "wishful thinking". I'm just comparing the facts to the law.

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino More fantastical black wishful thinking, like they wuz samurai and Mozart.

@Mistur_Sparkle @JosieMarcellino I'm omitting it because it didn't happen and is irrelevant. IMHO, of course. But we'll see what the jury think, eh (unless Chud pleads out to a lesser offense, which I bet money he does.)

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino You’re omitting: The person using force abandons the encounter or clearly communicates to the other the intent to do so; and (B) The other person nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the person. Saying “I’m walking away…etc” matters

@x5jailed_k03B01 @JosieMarcellino Tell it to the GA and jury

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino >if you provoked someone to illegally use force first he didnt do that?

Stop trying to reframe the issue. The issue is not "racism is illegal" or "racist words are illegal". Nobody said they were. Nobody threw Chud in jail for saying nigger. They threw him in jail for saying nigger to start a fight, then pulling a gun during the fight he asked for. And from the video, I'm not even sure he was losing the fight. That's a whole other can of worms. No matter how you get into a fight, in no state in the country can you shoot someone because you're WINNING a fight. Even if someone jumps out of the bushes and starts hitting you, you can't take them down, pin them, and THEN shoot them. That's not self defense; that's attempted murder.

@GhettoCode @H3llzCorn3rs @DoktorTalos @JosieMarcellino I am not a kid, but yes I do disagree with your read on the matter. You quoted the law, and then commented on why that precludes him from self-defense. I disagree. Being racist isn't illegal, and saying racist words also is not illegal. But you have a good night as well.

@dstechmedia2 @H3llzCorn3rs @DoktorTalos @JosieMarcellino OK, kid, I'm not going back and forth with you on this. You disagree with my read on the matter. Noted. Have a good night and time will tell who's right here. Probably in about 3 to 5 years is my estimate.

@GhettoCode @H3llzCorn3rs @DoktorTalos @JosieMarcellino Assault is not mutual combat. The n word is not fighting words. You can't assault someone for saying racist shit. It doesn't justify assault, and that's what you're trying to say here. That is the entire point of what he does.

Even the Supreme court has recognized "fighting words" as provocative speech. Allowed speech, yes, but not without consequences. One of those being: if you go looking for a fight, and you find one, then good on you, you got what you were looking for. Mutual combat, have at it. But you don't get to engage in mutual combat...and then pull out a gun.

@GhettoCode @H3llzCorn3rs @DoktorTalos @JosieMarcellino If I have a gun on me, I don't lose my 1st amendment. Chud was there because he had to appear in court. The altercation was allegedly started by the guy who got shot, and allegedly he has stalked Chud before. Saying the n word is not provoking violence.

First, tell it to the TN legislature. I'm just telling you what the law is. I quoted the exact section; look it up. The law is not common sense. The law is the law. And the law clearly says if you provoke someone to violence, you don't get to escalate force. You can probably get away with matching force: he punched you, you punch him. But you don't get to provoke someone to hit you and then shoot them. No matter what you want the law to be, the law is what it is.

@H3llzCorn3rs @DoktorTalos @GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino Saying words is not trying to start violence, even the word "nigger". This will likely be the central issue of this trial, and a lot of people are very much invested in it. If someone says that word it DOES NOT give you the right or justification to assault them.

@Morty_Martian @JosieMarcellino Are you having a stroke? Need me to call someone?

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino OH SHIT HE DISWESPECTED ME IMA GET ON HIM AND HIT HIM CUZ I NOT HIS SIS THAT SID RESPEK CUH

@Morty_Martian @JosieMarcellino lol ok sis

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino Dont chimp out bro

@DoktorTalos @JosieMarcellino Who are we kidding. This case is never going before a jury. Have you seen Chud's rap sheet? It's a mile long. He knows the game and will plead this down quick once he see's they're not Fing around. Felonious assault or something, take the 3-5 and call it a day.

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino Well, juries find all sorts of things, regardless of the law. I do think that a lot will probably hinge on how sympathetic a jury he gets.

@DoktorTalos @JosieMarcellino Welp, it' not your decision. It's the DA and the jury so we'll see who's right.

@GhettoCode @JosieMarcellino The definition of provocation is fairly narrow, and I don't think anything he did that I've heard meets it (insulting someone is not enough by itself). The central question is whether or not he had a reasonable fear of suffering death or great bodily harm.

@MajToure Tennessee Code § 39-11-611(e)(2). Use of force not authorized "If the person using force provoked the other individual's use or attempted use of unlawful force." Don't blame me; I don't write the law.

Verbal insults or words don’t justify initiating physical violence right? And if one is attacked for their words, they’re good to defend themselves right? If so…. That would mean Carmelo Anthony is justified in stabbing his aggressor. Let’s discuss.

I try to warn people all the time that the law ain't common sense. The law is the law and you'd better fucking know what the law is if you're going to carry a weapon. The affirmative legal defense of "self defense" isn't what most people think it is.

Y'all might want to lookup Tennessee Code § 39-11-611(e)(2). Use of force (for self defense) is not justified "If the person using force provoked the other individual's use or attempted use of unlawful force". Chud is fucked.