Right By You

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Right By You

Right By You

@Good_Rel_2226

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Right By You
Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
The world is full of bad relationship advice. Sometimes it's easy to determine that someone's suggestions are bad. Other times, you might feel that something's off even if you can't put your finger on it. However the most destructively bad advice are those that get past our radar, or even worse, are mistakenly believed as good. Most modern dating advice falls into the later category. It's often achieved through the use of manipulative language, double standards and by elevating "the relationship" above morals, and effectively above God. It's destructive, deceptive and has even infected the Church and the entire therapy industry. Because men are typically the victims of bad relationship advice backed by society's established institutions, we've seen a backlash in the form of reactionary movements like Redpill. Unfortunately, while Redpill correctly diagnoses a lot of the problems with modern relationships, the solutions it proposes are often just as destructive. The solution to bad relationship advice that victimizes men isn't bad relationship advice that victimizes women. The solution is good relationship advice.
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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@GiffLasta What if it was proven without a shadow of a doubt that cheating on your wife will make you more desirable to her, and there were no other negative consequences to the relationship. Would you recommend cheating on her and if not, why?
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Giff Lasta
Giff Lasta@GiffLasta·
"A man needs options." That's a half-truth. A man thrives with an abundance mindset, yes. But cheating on your wife so she will see you as more desirable is a remarkably short-sighted strategy.
GSUeagle@Medisinman4567

@GiffLasta Having a mistress fixes this

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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
It's not at all surprising that the women who believe this nonsense are often single and childless. Believing you "just existing" brings value equal to the blood, sweat and tears of your other half is narcissism at its finest. The men and women who reject this poison are the ones who build successful, life-long relationships.
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Diane Yap
Diane Yap@RealDianeYap·
Most of the value women bring is intrinsic. Men may be responsible for the bulk of the infrastructure and technology, but women make life worth living. Men must be useful. Women need only exist. I know the men seethe about this but that won’t change anything.
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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
This is fine as long as you apply it to every act that involves bodily autonomy. That means no expectations to talk when he doesn't want to talk. No expectation to cuddle when he doesn't want to cuddle. No expectation to physically do anything for you when he doesn't feel like it. If you can agree to this, then you want a fair relationship. If you don't, then what you want is a one-sided, abusive relationship where your wants are expected while his are optional.
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Madelaine Hanson
Madelaine Hanson@MadelaineLucyH·
No one signs away bodily autonomy by entering a relationship. Consent is ongoing.
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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@JoshuaLisec Empathy is not a sin. Empathy for evil things is a sin. Empathy for good things is righteous.
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Men's Standards
Men's Standards@MensStandards·
You're having a disagreement with your wife, and she suddenly says: "So now you're saying everything is my fault?" Weak husband: "No, no... that's not what I meant. I'm sorry. Forget I said anything." Composed husband:
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Right By You
Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
Agency isn't "generally true". It's either true or false. If women have agency, then your wife decides how she behaves. Your wife doesn't react to situations, she has the capacity to choose how she wants to react. If women do not have agency, then your wife has absolutely no choice.
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Justin Thiel
Justin Thiel@JThiel·
I don’t know who this Giselle is, but I’m not going to attribute that idea as hers, because I’ve heard it from other sources. Regardless, me and my wife have talked about it in depth. From our own life experiences, and from a polarity perspective, we generally agree that it’s true. I should just create a longform post about this concept, because there is a lot to breakdown here. ✅
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Gia Macool
Gia Macool@GiaMMacool·
So no matter what, a man is responsible for a woman's behavior? Women believe they don't have responsibility for their actions because every action is just a reaction. They never ask themselves what they bring out in a man? 🤔 It's always his fault. A man is never responsible for his wife's happiness. Nor is a woman responsible for a man's happiness. If you blame your actions on another person, you're playing the victim.
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Right By You
Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
This is why the advice that tell me to "take responsibility for everything" ultimately fails. Yes, it can help husbands who aren't being leaders. Yes, it can help husbands get laid more often. However by telling a man that he's responsible for everything, including his wife's decisions, he's damning her to a life of perpetual adolescence and narcissism. This relationship can work because many one-sided relationships can work. It just requires one side to consent to a life of abuse. However just because a relationship CAN work doesn't mean it's good.
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Right By You
Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@dadstartingover I'd assume the common response to that is something along the lines of "well maybe if you did more around the house and helped out with the kids, mental load, destroy my body for you, etc" Really just every excuse in the book you can think of.
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Dad Starting Over@dadstartingover·
In all my years of doing this, I have learned that nothing gets our lady friends angrier than a man saying, "I feel like I've been forgotten every since we had kids. I miss my wife. I miss us." Can you guess what the common response to that is?
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Right By You
Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
The only way you get to yours and Giff's interpretation is if you invent parts of the story that were never present. You also have to ignore the fact that they aren't the same conversation proven by the different backgrounds, and the fact the dialogue doesn't flow. You also have to ignore the way the poster characterizes it as a mismatch in what BOTH are expected to do. A covert contract places expectations on only ONE party. So no.
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ἀποκατάστασις
ἀποκατάστασις@allbesaved·
There are two ways to interpret this meme the way I did and Giff obviously does is that this is a stream of conversation. "Be the man I want you to be" "Alright then, be the woman I want you to be." "Omg you pig" Or, the way you read it is that the top and bottom are two different Turnings of the same wheel, not a single conversation. Giff is not wrong. It is a covert contract, if you read it the way it seems natural to read. The meme maker needed to make the two characters different to make it clear that these are two distinct and unrelated conversations.
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Chris Diamond
Chris Diamond@G_CobraTheMan·
Men are expected to be ready for sex anytime, But women can reject their own boyfriend without any explanation. Desire is only a male obligation.
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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@allbesaved This is true if you care more about motivational lies than the honest truth. It's also true if you care more about "feeling" like a leader than leading your wife and your family into becoming better people. So no, absolutely incorrect.
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ἀποκατάστασις@allbesaved·
@Good_Rel_2226 "The only logical conclusion is that it is always the man's fault." Correct. x.com/i/status/18494…
Giff Lasta@GiffLasta

The Backhanded Compliment of Blame Why it's always the man's fault A lot of guys are fed up with being blamed for everything. They’re responsible for their bad behavior, and somehow the women’s bad behavior too. Any concerns are dismissed with a “man up.” They’re expected to deliver results whether or not they’re equipped or trained. Meanwhile, it seems like women are let off the hook. And so they get pissed and try to shift the blame. I get it. But it also drives me crazy, because they’re missing out on a secret: there’s power in things being your fault. If someone is blaming you for a bad situation, then they’re implicitly saying that you are the one responsible for it. And if you are the one responsible for it, that means you are the one in charge. If you’re in charge, then you are assumed to have the authority to change the situation. We get a lot of hate from women online, but if guys can hold frame and not react to it, there’s opportunity. Beneath the surface, there’s the pain of wounded trust. Feminists say, “we’re just mad because you’re not being an equal partner” but I don’t buy it. If my business partner doesn’t pull his weight, I’m annoyed. But I’m not cut to the core. It’s when a leader who I looked up to betrays my trust that I feel that level of rage. The anger testifies to the fact that their hearts really wanted us to be worthy of their trust. They want us to lead. Have we let them down this bad? It’s a complex story. There’s a ton that’s not actually our fault. The past two centuries have shaken the way men and women relate. The industrial revolution took us out of the home all day. Massive soul-crushing world wars made us cold and distant for generations. A technological and sexual revolution that left us confused and adrift. But even if we didn’t cause the problems, people complain to those in charge. And women are complaining to men. In primal human family life, men are the leaders. Not “have the right to be the leaders.” Not “would be the leaders if women got out of the way.” The man simply is the alpha of the family unit. If he does nothing, then indecision and abandonment is on the throne. A wife’s anxious scrambling to make things still run can keep life afloat, but the home still feels the absence of the good he is meant to bring. And so with the greater society. “But they told us we were toxic and they don’t want us.” Yes, and we failed the shit test. We folded instead of addressing their concerns out of a strong masculine frame. Rollo Tomassi says “responsibility without authority is slavery.” He means that men are expected to deliver results without being given the authority they need to deliver the results. I hate this quote. It’s exactly backwards. Authority comes from responsibility. Very rarely in life are you given full unearned trust. Men of action simply act. We don’t wait for permission. Yeah, there’s risk. But when that responsibility is taken with excellence, it is often recognized with authority. The biblical story of Joseph is a great example. The young man is sold into slavery in Egypt by his brothers. And yet he takes responsibility and is given leadership over his master’s house. Then he’s falsely accused of sexual assault by the man’s wife and thrown into prison. But he takes initiative in prison, and soon the jailors put him in charge of all the other prisoners. Finally, word gets out, and Joseph ends up pardoned and ultimately made governor of all Egypt under Pharaoh. “Slavery with responsibility is authority.” When I started leveling up in my marriage, I was surprised to find myself driving more on family trips. My wife likes to drive, so it was natural for me to just let her handle it. Was this some macho thing where I had to be in the driver’s seat to feel like a man? Was I insecure? But it wasn’t that. It was imagining getting in a wreck. I could see her racked with guilt, especially if one of the kids was hurt. And I knew in my heart: I wanted it to have been me. I wanted it to be my fault. Get hungry for blame. Develop an insatiable appetite for responsibility. Desperately want to be the guy people complain to. Embrace radical ownership. And you’ll find the circles of your impact expand. You may also find the yoke easy, and the burden light.

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Right By You
Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
Two posts, both expressing dissatisfaction with what is called a "covert contract". In the first post, the covert contract is defended. "It's that way because of biology. It's because men can't get pregnant" In the second post, the covert contract is rejected. The only logically consistent position is that no matter what, it's the man's fault.
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Kaeley Triller
Kaeley Triller@KaeleyT·
@aaron_p_edwards Nonsense. Men and women are different so procreation can happen. The fruits of the Spirit aren’t gendered, and if everyone just focused on being more like Jesus, I suspect we’d have a lot less time to sit around wringing our hands about gender norms.
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Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards@aaron_p_edwards·
Modern evangelicals are very confused about why God made men and women so different. Even those who claim to hold to Biblical teaching about this issue ultimately refuse to challenge the deep-rooted presuppositions of western feminism. This is why they find it so hard to accept that God might actually want men to act like men and women to act like women. This is hugely consequential. I am absolutely sick of it. It shortchanges so many men and women, leaving them either confused or hopelessly passive to stand against the androgynous spirit of the age, ever desperate to pretend that men and women are really not all that different after all. This is no small thing, by the way. When you masculinise women and feminise men, or when you fail to accentuate their God-given and God-proclaimed differences, you stand against the long-term flourishing of families and thus erode the foundations of civilization itself.
Rebecca McLaughlin@RebeccMcLaugh

The Bible does not give us different virtue lists for men & women. I would say, "I will die on this hill." But I'm leaving the dying-on-a-hill to the greatest man in all of human history, who described himself as "gentle & lowly" (Matthew 11:29).

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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@TheXMatriarch Because men, like women, are flawed creatures who by nature want all the benefits but none of the sacrifices.
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Alex Moraru@Alex_Moraru_·
@GiffLasta @Good_Rel_2226 Can you willingly take the penalty for something if you dont take the responsibility for it first? 🤔
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Right By You
Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
"Extreme ownership" is to ownership as "social justice" is to justice. Both are bastardizations of the core concept they are pretend to be. When Jesus died on the cross for the sins of humanity, He didn't take responsibility for those sins. He took the penalty for those sins. Paying the price for or withholding judgement for the sins of others is called grace. Taking responsibility for the sins of others is evil because it runs directly in the face of truth and justice. A good man, a good husband, and a good leader leads his family in truth. Not convenient, motivational lies.
Giff Lasta@GiffLasta

@danitreweek Um…because people use statements like that to deny observable differences between men and women all the time. In my circles, mostly from more fundy types trying to deny that men need to take extreme ownership in marriage.

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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@RealDianeYap Then let's put our understanding of the word to the test. Do women have the capacity to treat their man as a human being and not a tool to be used and discarded when she feels the tool has told her "no" too many times?
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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
Post #958,492,010 about how women have no agency, have no capacity to act in an unselfish way, cannot see relationships as anything but transactional, and therefore the man must change himself to meet her expectations.
Diane Yap@RealDianeYap

I’ll tell you a secret if you’re with a woman and want to keep her: you can’t say no too much. To anything. If she hears “no” too many times, even for trivial things like going to Target, she’ll wonder what the point of being with you is. And she’ll find someone who says yes.

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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@GiffLasta @G_CobraTheMan Except if you take a step back and reread the tweet, he never expresses it's "in return" for him being who she wants. What he addresses are the mismatched expectations of men and women in that it's okay for women to have expectations while it's not okay for men to do so.
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Giff Lasta
Giff Lasta@GiffLasta·
@Good_Rel_2226 @G_CobraTheMan No, it’s a covert contract. The dude is expecting her to be who he wants in return for him being who she wants. They never agreed to that arrangement. He should’ve just been who he wanted to be.
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Right By You@Good_Rel_2226·
@GiffLasta @G_CobraTheMan In this thread, you defend the covert contract citing biology as the reason. In the other thread, you reject the idea of accepting any covert contract.
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