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Tom Watson suggested LIV players should spend a year on the Korn Ferry Tour before returning. Sounds reasonable — until you look at how the system actually works. There’s a deeper risk here. grimcom.com

@marxsterbcow @TexasAce0328 @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour That’s a really interesting angle. If the Asian Tour moves first, do you think DP is forced to respond — or does it change the whole structure?

@GrimComm @TexasAce0328 @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour I wouldn’t put it past the Asian Tour to make the move on LIV first.

A LIV–DP World Tour merger is no longer far-fetched — it’s logical. The crowds are already demanding it. LIV events in Australia and South Africa are drawing 100,000+ fans. #LIVGolf #PGATour grimcom.com/pga-tour-liv-g…

@marxsterbcow @TexasAce0328 @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour I see what you're doing there, good idea.

@GolfKolo Apparently they need the players that LIV has, though.

@GrimComm They don’t need LIV to go there

@PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Follow-up thought here... x.com/i/status/20507…

The most interesting part of the LIV conversation right now isn’t the format. It’s where the demand is actually showing up.

@rowedogg1981 @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour The Adelaide piece is interesting — LIV clearly got there first and built something that’s getting attention.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour LIV created LIV Adelaide. LIV Adelaide makes bank $$$$$. PGA Tour hosts signature event in Adelaide… LIV Players welcomed back as thy help build the LIV Adelaide Asset. PGA benefit from the new “Asset”. Earnings from PGA Adelaide distributed to players excl LIV players…

@TexasAce0328 @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour That feels more realistic — adapting what’s working in certain markets rather than forcing a full merger.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour I don’t see that happening. Now could DP World look at picking up 1 or 2 events, like Adelaide? Perhaps. But no, don’t see a merger.

@HerpsNicholas @14BillyChapel @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Adelaide definitely stands out — the combination of turnout, local support, and broadcast reach seems to be working there.

@14BillyChapel @GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Nope Adelaide is profitable State government pays them and they have a broadcast deal for both Australia and Asia I have said many times that Adelaide should be the model and it should abandon most American events

@PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Big crowds don’t happen by accident — something is clearly working in those markets.

@TinCup2020 @DickBlandTrackr @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Fair, narratives do shift. The interesting part is what’s actually changing underneath them.

@DickBlandTrackr @GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour It wasn't too long ago that LIV fans were repeating each day that the DPWT had been "gutted" (their word) by the PGA Tour and that it was nothing more than a "feeder" (their word) tour for the PGA Tour. So it's not surprising to me at all that this new narrative has surfaced.

@PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Big crowds don’t happen by accident, something is clearly working in those markets.

@jaggolfsales @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour That’s the key question, what defines it long term. Right now the traction in certain markets is the part that’s hard to ignore.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour But the model was 54 holes. That's gone. It's team golf, that would be gone. It's playing globally. Doesn't the DPWT do that? Shorts and loud music? Gone. I don't know. What's left to say it's LIV and distinguish it from what's already out there?

@filoquecorta @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour That’s one direction, or it evolves into something that blends elements from both.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour There will be no teams, no logos (crushers,etc)no music shenanigans, so just go to the DP and shut down Liv.

@jaggolfsales @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour That’s a fair point. How much of LIV is format vs just a different model is still an open question.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Well it's an option but you surely won't have team golf. If you aren't playing team golf is it really LIV? Sounds more like LIVs former players playing on the DPWT. 😂

@PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Whether people agree with LIV or not, the turnout in certain markets is hard to ignore.

@14BillyChapel @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour There’s clearly demand for golf, the interesting part is why LIV is the one capturing it in those markets.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour There’s no demand for LIV, there’s demand for golf. Those places are golf’s equivalent of a guy in a bar on a dry spell with beer goggles.

@filoquecorta @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour DP definitely has the structure, LIV’s strength so far has been drawing attention in certain markets.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour DP dictates the rules not the shut down circus liv.

@SimonFlynnefc @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Fair — a lot would have to change for it to happen.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour In your dreams never happening

@rccola413 @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour That’s part of what’s interesting — it’s clearly a different format, but it’s drawing attention traditional events haven’t in those markets. And now 72 holes.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour They’re not putting on golf tournaments. Those are festivals under the guise of a golf tournament

@14BillyChapel @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour That’s the key question — financially it’s still evolving, but the demand in certain markets is clearly there.

@GrimComm @PGATOUR @livgolf_league @DPWorldTour Why would the DPWT align itself with a toxic, dying brand? They don’t need LIV to play in Oz or SA.