Hardware Unboxed

@TH3_PROFESSORx I did make this video a little while ago now: youtube.com/watch?v=aYYVz4…

@HardwareUnboxed I know you hate (for good reason) doing benchmarks with a test bench that isn't high end but if you're out of content ideas, a video benchmarking current gen GPUs with the 5800X3D would be cool. See how it does with 16gb of RAM as well.

@NedjoK @nielsbekkers88 The Radeon RX 5600 XT (Frequency Issue), The Radeon VII (Missing UEFI Support) and on topic, the Radeon RX 480 (PCI Express Power Drain). That's numerous examples right?

@HardwareUnboxed @nielsbekkers88 "Numerous". Give us n u m e r o u s example(s)... BTW FW installation on PS5 and XBOX is regular thing...hell it's regular on my Google TV. At this point this post is just:

So the Steam Machine is meant to be easier to live with than a traditional gaming PC, but already needs a BIOS update to avoid thermal throttling. It uses a Radeon GPU, what were they expecting?

@wite_wolf_ @teromee Far out you're more AI bot than he is.

@teromee @HardwareUnboxed Well said Hardware unboxed and other fake gaming reporters want you to think that upscaling is bad and these new budget cards are as bad as rx 480

Just turn down the quality settings...... is what a buffoon would say.

@jayworks13 I'm gaming right now, screw work!

@HardwareUnboxed Face it you guys don’t enjoy gaming that’s all🤷🏾🤦🏾

@coolingreviews Sorry

@HardwareUnboxed Oh, so we're on for tomorrow?!

@TH3_PROFESSORx It's crazy isn't it!!!!!!

@HardwareUnboxed You mean to tell me that this is a nuanced subject and things that were okay a decade ago are not okay now? I never would have guessed.

Explaining the VRAM contradiction, why 4GB of VRAM was once okay and now 8GB of VRAM isn’t okay. • The RX 480 was released in 2016 with 4 and 8GB options. • 4GB’s of VRAM had only been available for 3 years at the time, so it was still new, previously 8GB options were only offered by flagship models. • Games at the time didn’t require more than 4GB’s of VRAM and it wasn’t until many years later, some time after 2020, that games started to require 8GB GPUs. The attitude shift came when it was clear we had been stuck with mainstream 8GB GPUs for far too long, especially the more expensive $400-$500 options. • 4GB GPUs had been around for 3 years when the RX 480 arrived for $200 US. • 8GB GPUs had been around for 12 years when the RTX 5060 Ti arrived for $380 US.

@tochavos Probably but they are both very easy so it should be a nonissue.

@HardwareUnboxed @HardwareUnboxed Do you think it will be easier to perform than a similar bios update on a pre built PC?

@Jollyroger84103 I've seen similar comments so I thought I'd try and clear it up ;)

@HardwareUnboxed Lmao, I don't even know why you bothered replying to this guy so long. He sounds like he's having an episode

@coolingreviews Not going to take the dumbass bait today :D

@HardwareUnboxed Eh, not everyone needs to play at ultra max settings

@DilageX What is? :S

@HardwareUnboxed It's the fault of people like you lol

@teromee No, lets not just move on. You claimed multiple things I said, which I didn't, you were wrong. So are you now going back on those claims?

So let me ask you this question. What was the attitude change between the 10 series and the Polaris GPU coming out and where we are right now where vram requirements have balloons so significantly? I'll give you a single hint. What was the console generation that had a exceedingly longer than expected life cycle? Constraint breeds, innovation and optimization. don't allow over generalization to blind you or you will lose sight of certain patterns.

@teromee Also complete BS about the GTX 1060 3GB. Why are you lying about this? :S

@teromee From my RX 480 review....

"You said like the RX 480 the 4 GB card should not exist. There should only be 8 GB cards." If I said that I don't recall, can you show me where I said that? What I do recall saying was that AMD should have sampled the 4GB model, rather than the 8GB model, because the 4GB version was better value.

@Lawgiver771 Yes

@HardwareUnboxed It lowers power draw and heat, which can reduce thermal throttling and let the GPU hold higher boost clocks for longer. The result can be smoother performance and sometimes a small FPS increase.

@game_boy We're certainly not arguing that. We've been informed, reliably in the comments section and on X, that the Steam Machine can't be compared to a pre-built for reasons, one being it doesn't need updates like a regular PC.

@HardwareUnboxed What are we even doing here? Are we arguing that a PC shouldn't need updates because of product segmentation? 🤨

@Lawgiver771 I assume that happens in situations here you are managing to avoid thermal throttling which tanks performance.

@HardwareUnboxed I know in some instances at least with AMD gpus underclocking the card can actually increase performance and games.

@teromee lol wut :S

@HardwareUnboxed The same attitude you had back when the Polaris GPU line was announced and released

@Kowaidemon Funny in the face of, it's not a PC and you don't have to deal with PC-like issues.

@HardwareUnboxed "It has to update and will probably be simple BUT IT'S STILL A BAD LOOK"