Haroun

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Such a Christian way to talk I see but funny scholarship has been ripping holes in Christianity for decades now showing the amount of issues and theological development. The theology of Paul and the church 1400 years and counting while Christianity is declining everywhere lol.

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Scream god. Chimp out. Nobody cares and everyone is done, christianity has stood against challenge for 2000 years, islam has only had to answer for what 30 years? Its already dying lol

most frequently asked question

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Now you are shifting lol born and raised American once was Christian now I’m not. What’s your point?

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Your in the usa, i sure hope u are culturally an american

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Lmaoo yet when we bring up our chain of transmission your argument falls flat on its face. What scholars says we have no chain of transmission? Where’s your proven chain of transmission of the Bible?

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Nobody knows who wrote the quran, you dont have one single name to the pen, not one thats why all debators will say they dont know lol

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy When they all came together they agreed this was the Quran and if anyone made a mistake there were already a large amount of people who memorized it and would have corrected it if that was the case. Yet we don’t find any evidence of that at all 114 is the correct number

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Uthman decided what the quran became, they had the 4 guys put it together i totally agree, but they didnt agree that it was even correct, how many chapters did they all agree on?

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy What ever parts of the Quran whether full or parts was burned if they had errors or notes in them. The primary means of transmission was through oral recitation. Now compare that to the Bible which most of your manuscripts come late in comparison

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Personal qurans? Your talking about inscriptions on pieces of bones and animal skins, none of this was full qurans, these desert dwellers had a few words etched into bones at a time. There was no full quran.

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy You quite literally don’t even know who authored the Gospels? The names of them were attributed later lol. Plus the multitude of errors additions and redactions are numerous within the bible and the manuscripts.

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Those were the people who compiled the passages of the quran which uthman found scatterd around the islamic world of that time. They are not authors, nor did any of them agree that the quran was compiled correctly.

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy You have yet to prove otherwise your bibles compilation and preservation has nothing on the Quran. Took you guys centuries to compile and then agree on what should be included thus why you have different canons. What’s your compilation method and preservation? Who wrote the books

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy I thought u were being honest

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Yet in those copies they are identical to what we have today. What was burned was personal Qurans that had mistakes or notes in them. Each verse had at least 2 witnesses for them. Your own scholars praise this preservation method

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy No after the Quran was finished being compiled he sent copies out with those who memorized it what are you talking about. Dog from our own sources which you pick and chose from says he burned all unauthorized Qurans. We even still have manuscripts of ones that had notes in it.

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy lol woah bring me the evidence of this. Allah is the author the prophet pbuh transmitted it to the companions and the companions wrote it down. Uthman had Hafsa Quran which he used to standardize the Quran what are you talking about? There were people who memorized it before that

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy manuscripts of the Quran existed prior to Uthman that Hafsa had. Uthman standardized the Quran and burned any personal copies that contained notes etc to avoid confusion. Then sent copies out with those who memorized the Quran to the surrounding nations.

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Who wrote the quran? Before you talk about annonymous, give me the name of the person who wrote the quran you idiot 😂

@NevskyDialectic @Jvnior @enesovat22 I agree in today’s age 9 year olds are not fit for marriage but that is also due to the fact that the mental capacity is far behind what it use to be or what the standard was. Presentism is based on subjective norms societies hold to which isn’t universal across the board.

@NevskyDialectic @Jvnior @enesovat22 Misread I thought you were arguing she must be fully matured. Which I wouldn’t argue for. Since that would make everything immoral But the argument of puberty being the standard when we speak biblically must be moral. Unless you say all of human history was bad morally

I will leave Islam if @enesovat22 can do this challenge. But if he cannot do this, then he should admit Muhammad ﷺ did not marry a child. If this is a fair deal, tag him. Let’s go.

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy Go ahead and provide the evidence. I left Christianity because it’s false I don’t plan to return lol. We have our traditions from companions and scholars while you have stuff from anonymous writers and no writings from the disciples.

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy The quran has so mamy contradictions and then when you bring hadith into it it just criples the islamic belief system. Your only taught by imams and scholars what they want you to know, if you knwo the truth you would run from islam just as many muslim norn kids in the west

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy lol so there’s no such thing as sunset and sunrise got it. Of course the earth moves around the sun thus god created what humans perceive as the sun coming up and going down. Could God not allow for this to occur?

@Haroun1095 @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy The sun doesnt rise or set, the earth spins around the sun while also spinning, day and night is an illusion meaning the sun doesnt actually go anywhere so mohammed was completely wrong.

@NevskyDialectic @Jvnior @enesovat22 When do women become fully developed both mentally and physically?

@Jvnior @enesovat22 So your argument is that she was a fully developed women? That there was no difference in terms of bodily and mentally development between her and an 18 year old? Really? That's your argument Imagine having to constantly defend your prophet like that because he was a pedophile..

@SDPadsFanTapls @WhiteHouse If you believe Saudi government itself was behind 9/11 you need to dig a bit deeper lol. Who’s been exploiting extremist in the Middle East and why were there Israelis working in the towers? Why did we release mossad agents from custody who were there to document the attack?

"The Civil Nuclear Deal (There will be no enrichment of material!) being made between the United States Department of Energy and Saudi Arabia, which pertains only to non-military use such as the ones that Iran and UAE (and others) already have, will be approved, but is totally subject to Saudi Arabia joining the very respected and successful Abraham Accords..." - President Donald J. Trump

@Restore_1_ @OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @muslimorthodoxy What’s the evidence for this? What doesn’t contradict?

@OmarRiad695358 @djajwj_12js @Haroun1095 @muslimorthodoxy It statea in the bible that the earth is round, that water evaporates into clouds and falls back to earth, to quarantine people away from infectious disease and much more long before science found them. While mohammed said to do the opposite on a lot of the same topics