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@armathior @Ben539943869062 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad That’s why 1/2 of all Christians are not Catholic.

@HayMan7140 @Ben539943869062 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad After reading the Scripture itself, I'm still confused as to how they got these interpretations...

Let's have fun here What Christian denomination are you right now? Under what Christian denomination were you raised? Curious to see the results

@Dusty3080467325 Bill Monroe

Waymore and the father of Bluegrass

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Don’t have to. He never said it. Jesus, not anyone else in scripture ever said you must join the RCC in order to enter the Kingdom of God.

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Argue that with Jesus, brother. I’d be remiss (and reminded at my judgement) if I didn’t mention that multiple Peters have infallibly taught that no one outside the Church can be saved. (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.)

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad So you did read exactly the same scripture as me then. Peter is long gone. And the miser RCC is not the same. It’s ever changing, thus fallible. Unlike scripture

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad I’m nobody. Just a former atheist who sat down and read the New Testament for the 1st time in 1996. I had no dog in the fight. Was certainly not Catholic. No, it’s correct because the Church created by Jesus and founded on the Rock of Peter has taught this since 33AD

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad So you’re literally saying the pope has all authority? Even over scripture? Were actually further apart than I ever realized

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad No, because it is not scripture that Jesus gives us to use as authority. It is the Church headed by Peter. Nowhere does Jesus tell us to read it for yourselves. He gives us a magisterial Church headed by and founded on the Rock as our sole authority - not scripture.

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad This doesn’t talk about other scripture

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Easy. Mt. 16:18-19.

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Where’s the scripture that says what else to use?

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Any scripture that you think upholds the heretical view of so-called “Bible Alone” aka sola scriptura. I mean if ever there was a scriptural teaching, it’d be that right? To put it another way - if there is no scriptural citation for “Bible alone” then it is self-refuting

@patrick10477 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Oh so the foolish ones. But it’s not built on arrogance?

@HayMan7140 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Yes, many poorly catechized or nominal Catholics become Protestant.

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Scripture of what?

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Oh maybe I missed it. Can you cite the scripture? And afterward explain how Jesus gives Peter (later his bishops) the power to “bind” sins?

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Or Lord never named anyone as “pope” and certainly never mentioned successive Popes.

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Sigh. No, I’m claiming that Our Lord’s explicit commands establish him (and each successive pope) as the ROCK on which Jesus builds His Church. The actions of the early Church are simply evidence as to how the contemporary Church viewed Peter & his office

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Says the Catholic hierarchy.

@armathior @HayMan7140 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad False. The Catholic Church was founded by Christ on the apostle Peter. See Mt. 16:18-19. And Christ Himself gave Peter His Authority including the power to bind (hold) and loose (forgive) sin. The so-called “Sinner’s Prayer” is unbiblical - like the heresy of “Bible Alone.”

@armathior @Ben539943869062 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad I know better than to bring that up lol

@HayMan7140 @Ben539943869062 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Don't tell them about all the evidence that the Catholic Church was founded by Constantine.

@armathior @Ben539943869062 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad I know. And church of Christ think Methodists worship Wesley.

@HayMan7140 @Ben539943869062 @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Some more radical Catholics seem to think that Protestants see Luther and Calvin the same way they see their Pope. It's... not really the same. At all.

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad You do know the difference in the new and Old Testaments right? Because new testaments are identical. And insulting Luther and Calvin don’t trigger me. I don’t worship them. They were just fallible men. Just like the pope.

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Wrong. For centuries up til the 1500s, Scripture included 77 books. It still does, but after the arch-heretics Luther, Calvin, etc. they abridged the holy canon because it contradicted what they wanted to emphasize. Luther himself wanted to exclude the Book of James.

@591actual 6 consecutive years of that followed by a hail storm is why took it out of my lineup.

I remember wheat being an almost sure thing when I was a kid. At least to grow bushels. We are working on year six of “if it doesn’t rain like 2” and soon, we can just not plan on running this one through a machine”. Dumb.

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad So you’re claiming that Peter’s dispute resolution is what establishes him as the first pope? And I have read scripture sir. Particularly the New Testament, which is no different between Catholics and Christians.

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Sometimes I’m shocked that Protestants don’t seem to have read this very first book after the Gospels. Over and over and over again, the Apostles call upon Peter’s authority. Here’s a non-snarky suggestion - go re-read Acts noting how many times the Church calls on him

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad So well after any written scripture or the death of Peter

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad Pope is Italian for “Papa.” The earliest reference was in the 200’s.

@BowtiedQueenBee Same story here. Our youngest is finishing his sophomore year next week

My oldest is graduating in May. When we started, I said every year, “if it doesn’t work this year, we’ll send them to school next year.” I stopped saying that around 7th grade, realizing there was no reason to send them away, ever. And so far, I don’t regret homeschooling.

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad This calls him “pope”?

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad The Book of Acts

@Ben539943869062 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad So since you saw it this way, it has to be correct?

@HayMan7140 @armathior @K2Campy @GigaBasedDad St. John Henry Newman. “To be deep in history is to become Catholic.” (That’s what happened to me also. No one was more shocked than I was to study the Bible and become Catholic.)