HeathensAgainstHate

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HeathensAgainstHate

HeathensAgainstHate

@HeathensAgainst

Educating on the differences between Inclusive Heathenry and extremist variants and fostering better understanding through education and sustained dialogue.

United States Katılım Nisan 2018
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HeathensAgainstHate
HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
3) If you have received any requests by Jon Minadeo Jr., "Handsome Truth Enterprises" (he also runs a YouTube channel by the same name); file a complaint with the @ADL via their website or contact authorities if the message is of a threatening nature.
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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
2) We believe that he is baiting for info concerning Pagans/Heathens of Jewish descent and targeting those individuals.
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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
1) ! COMMUNITY ALERT ! We received an inquiry via our website that sought information of any anti-racist activism and notable Pagan and Heathens from "Handsome Truth Enterprises", run by Jon Minadeo Jr. - an notorious anti-Semite in the Bay Area in California.
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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
3) Even if defended as “sheer ignorance”, there’s complacency in being “ok” moving forward with an evocative symbol of Nazi regalia. Be it organizer, designer, or builder; the “ignorant” or willful lack of oversight sends a message of hate long flown in the faces of the oppressed
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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
1) This “winged” Odal is a straight up Nazi corruption (in both form and meaning) of the known Othala common in runic inscription. It appears to be quite a bold nod to the white supremacists comfortably situated among the conservative constituency.
Hami 👾@hami

Having worked with Norse and Elder Futhark iconography for years, I’m quite alert to the glyph shapes and their associations in the modern world and history. So, why is the #CPAC2021 stage an Odal rune, and specifically one with serifs (or wings) that was used by the SS?

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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@ElSandifer Our energy has been well spent away from Twitter as of late. We're not going to defend our Twitter activity because our work outside of the Twitterverse is much more important. But thanks for reminding us through this back and forth banter why it is we place our energy elsewhere
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Elizabeth Sandifer
Elizabeth Sandifer@ElSandifer·
I mean, nah, I’m judging you for lots of reasons, but I think it’s telling that your response is to narcissistically praise yourself instead of actually trying to defend your Twitter activity.
HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst

@ElSandifer So you're judging us based upon our Twitter activity? If so, then you're right; we're failing due to inactivity 😅 What you're not seeing (or refuse to see) is our work with communities, education initiatives, and partnership with national organizations combatting extremism.

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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@ElSandifer So you're judging us based upon our Twitter activity? If so, then you're right; we're failing due to inactivity 😅 What you're not seeing (or refuse to see) is our work with communities, education initiatives, and partnership with national organizations combatting extremism.
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Elizabeth Sandifer
Elizabeth Sandifer@ElSandifer·
.@HeathensAgainst I just... why? Why are you like this? Why are you incapable of any anti-racist action beyond sending out another ass-covering press release? Do you really think our gods are proud of the pathetic shit you’re doing? Do you really think this is valorous?
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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@ElSandifer @WestTXLibsoc We're on the same side on this fight. The difference lies in methodology. We do not take the "punch a nazi" approach, so some create the false equivalency that if we don't punch them, we must be hugging them; and that is just comically and argumentatively false.
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Elizabeth Sandifer
Elizabeth Sandifer@ElSandifer·
@HeathensAgainst @WestTXLibsoc Which, given that antifascism is not an organization, is a heck of a broad brush and high standard. If I recall you said this was necessary because of your affiliation with the Troth, which last time I checked was not a militantly pacifist organization so idk man.
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Wren
Wren@AnarchaWren·
The first half of this statement is a testament to the uselessness of "inclusive" heathen groups and their complete unwillingness to grapple with the reality of their own movement Groups like HAH are a part of the ecosystem that keeps heathenry safe for fascists, make no mistake
HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst

We are going to say this once. We will continue to advocate and educate on the appropriation of #Heathen symbols and religion by extremism. However, despite the noticeable and poorly inked Norse tattoos on one DC rioter, the primary appropriation is that of a #Sioux headdress.

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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@ElSandifer @WestTXLibsoc That is not what we said. We encouraged people to engage in antifascist activism (ourselves included: Philadelphia 2018-19). What we said was that we do not advocate for people to use violence as a means for activism (which some have argued for).
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Elizabeth Sandifer
Elizabeth Sandifer@ElSandifer·
@HeathensAgainst @WestTXLibsoc I think, and I’m just spitballing here, that Andrew is probably referring to things like the time you told me you absolutely refused to endorse antifascist activism because it did not categorically renounce violence.
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HeathensAgainstHate
HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
Heathen extremism is not only a deeply seeded element in our faith to be uprooted and disposed of... Sometimes it's just a thin façade of Nordic mythos and warrior stereotypes; where what lies beneath is a wasteland of toxic masculinity, white fragility, and a lot of anger.
PhilHine@PhilH86835657

Excellent article on a right-wing network making inroads into self-help and occult milieus. Thanks @amyhale93 politicalresearch.org/2020/11/09/tot…?

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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@WestTXLibsoc Our entire mission is to the condemnation and the dismantling of white supremacy. We've condemned them constantly and on a regular basis...just not to your liking. We see now that you have a personal issue with us for some reason that would make this tweet-a-thon endless. #Bye
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Wren
Wren@AnarchaWren·
@HeathensAgainst But I'm sure interviews and lectures from an anti-hate group that, in the wake of a white supremacist coup attempt, cannot utter a clear and principled condemnation of white supremacy, are of enormous value to the heathen community and the wider world. Y'all working w/ ACLU too?
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Wren
Wren@AnarchaWren·
"How dare you say we're doing blue lives matter solely on the grounds that we put out a statement that emphasized danger to law enforcement officials in its opening paragraph"
HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst

@WestTXLibsoc So if we are to understand correctly, you are calling us out as "blue lives matter" because we were concerned for the well being of people working in the capital that included safety officials whose duty it was to protect federal employees from 30k rioters?

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HeathensAgainstHate
HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@WestTXLibsoc We are not. We are aware and full transparent on the racial history of Heathenry, both in the US and abroad. One of our primary goals is to educate on this. You clearly have not sat in our lectures or listened to our interviews.
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Wren
Wren@AnarchaWren·
@HeathensAgainst "We are organizing in #Heathenry which is inherently NOT a white supremacist religious movement." This is what I'm fucking talking about when I say y'all sidestep the history. This right here. This is why y'all will never fucking change anything meaningful about heathenry.
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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@WestTXLibsoc We are organizing in #Heathenry which is inherently NOT a white supremacist religious movement. The awareness? Is to Neo-Volkisch (Folkish) bastardization of Heathen faith and iconography. White supremacy that co-opts symbols and ideology alike to further racist ideology.
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Wren
Wren@AnarchaWren·
@HeathensAgainst The fuck are you raising awareness on when you're 'organizing' (if we charitably decide to call it that) in a white supremacist religious movement but cannot bring yourselves to specify what kind of extremism is the principle problem?
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HeathensAgainstHate
HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@WestTXLibsoc You mean aside from raising awareness on the extremism in Heathenry, providing interviews, community engagement, lectures, marching in (yes, peaceful) protests, and opening dialogue with national organizations that specifically work on extremism? We're on Twitter with you :)
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Wren
Wren@AnarchaWren·
@HeathensAgainst What have y'all contributed? Noncommital language? Pandering to LEOs and military activism and patriotic appeals that keeps heathenry hostile to all but a narrow band of largely cis, white, straight people? An inability to police facebook groups full of people w/ gadsden avs?
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HeathensAgainstHate@HeathensAgainst·
@WestTXLibsoc We don't actually. But you seem very passionate about this insofar as to broadly decry ineptitude on our part. So we'd love to hear about your contribution to the work toward inclusive Heathenry.
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Wren
Wren@AnarchaWren·
@HeathensAgainst This shit is why every fucking "inclusive heathenry" space you waltz into online, when something political comes up it turns out there's a whole teeming nest of right wing chuds to swarm the comments. Bc y'all use language that panders to them, and you fucking tolerate them.
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