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@StatistAnarcho @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Marx had Hegel, and Lenin killed the top 1%.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Marx and Lenin were friends with the top 1%.

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian That's why you're supposed to hold them accountable, I'm all for being harsher on politicians. On corruption: it can take many forms and wont disappear because you switch power from governments to megacorps, read some sci fi.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian Yes, corruption doesn't extinguish, but the difference is who pays the bill, in the government corruption is paid by taxpayers, while in the private sector corruption is paid by the owner, this fact discourages corruption for the mere fact that losses fall into the owner's pocket

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian That's kinda the problem, the more you push for private healthcare, the worst public healthcare will get as a result. You said yourself a balance was more suitable for actual healthcare.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian Just to clarify, most liberals are not against public healthcare, we just believe that it can be better managed in the private sector.

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian Corruption can happen regardless, libertarianism doesnt solve the problem of human greed, quite the contrary. That would be an anarchist utopia, aka a commune, complete autarcy of everyone (so no corruption possible)

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian The point we liberals do is that the biggest a State becomes the most incentives people with wrong morals has to try and corrupt it, you can have a big and efficient gobernment, but you can't expect selfish people to try and joins in in order to gain power for themself.

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian Public healthcare doesnt deny anyone care. Missmanagment and inefficiency happens in both cases. And a fully public owned healthcare can absolutely work.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian While public healthcare often comes with missmanagment and inefficiency due to lack of incentives. A mixed system that provides both of them to the lowest strata of society should be the best option, but never a fully public owned service will fulfill the needs of a society.

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian The paradox with indoctrination by education is that you will end up in Orwell's 1984 with double think, people who have a facade for the regime yet enoug knowledge to see the lies. And we could talk about when it was done right and proved to be be better & cheaper than private.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian When you let the State manage education that can lead to a big indoctrination problem, just like the Nazi leader Juan Domingo Perón did during his presidency here in Argentina.

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian That's still missing healthcare and education to be fair, both should absolutely be both mandatory and not profit driven.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian You're mixing minarquism with anarcho capitalism, we minarquists believe that a State has 3 fundamentals jobs: security, justice and defense, anything besides that can be provided and improved by the private sector. Thanks for confirming your lack of understanding on liberalism.

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@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian There's no real police in libertarianism, and no clear morality either. No one to enforce the NAP, so good luck hoping the other guy wont infringe when there's no consequences.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian NAP is reinforced based in the morality of the individuals, when someone breaks it is when police steps in and the law condems them. The whole point of liberalism is to create a society based on high trust and morals.

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian The NAP is a gross lie (no real way to enforce it) and there's no clear morality in libertarianism.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian "El liberalismo (libertarianismo en inglés) es el respecto irrestricto al proyecto de vida del prójimo, amparado en el principio de no agresión y en defensa al derecho a la vida, a la libertad y a la propiedad privada".

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian There is no morality in libertarianism. That's kinda the point.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian No conocés los principios morales del liberalismo, haces un reduccionismo al absurdo basado en tus prejuicios y te cerrás a la conversación en base a tus maquinaciones, claramente no conocés de que trata el liberalismo y aún así te creés en la potestad de opinar en tu ignorancia.

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian I already know friedman and hoppe, doesnt change my stance in the slightest.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian No voy a escribir dos veces lo mismo. x.com/Draigahan/stat…

@Draigahan @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian "tenemos principios morales, no todo es plata" Bro, it's libertarianism, everything IS about money.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @NeoRothbardian "El liberalismo (libertarianismo en inglés) es el respecto irrestricto al proyecto de vida del prójimo, amparado en el principio de no agresión y en defensa al derecho a la vida, a la libertad y a la propiedad privada". Los liberales tenemos principios morales, no todo es plata.

@GR1FF1NONE @Viktig5123 @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian See the other retard (@GR1FF1NONE ) if you want proof that libertarians are historically illiterate. It's thanks to socialists that we -mostly- ended child labor.

@GR1FF1NONE @Viktig5123 @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian You can thank socialists for those, not libertarians.

@Viktig5123 @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian That's the best you can do ? not beating the allegations anytime soon.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Are you into degradation or do you not actually realize how retarded you sound? Perhaps it's just projection who knows.

@Viktig5123 @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Not anyone, just libertarians. And it's well deserved.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian You're a fucking eejit. "Anyone I disagree with politically is a pedophile" literally just bad faith argument after bad faith argument. When are you gonna give up педик

@GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Yes they are, both scum. The worst humanity has to offer.

@Inu_Loki @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Nope they’re scum.

@Viktig5123 @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Any libertarian really. At best they dont care about children rights, and in the worst case they're openly for child exploitation.

@Inu_Loki @GR1FF1NONE @1battlepass @NeoRothbardian Who?

@GR1FF1NONE @Draigahan @NeoRothbardian That's still you vouching for libertarians AKA pedos.

@Inu_Loki @Draigahan @NeoRothbardian No the outed pedophiles like you, reply again if you are a pedophile.