Eagle

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Eagle

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@JJay1776

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Eagle@JJay1776·
@_y_o_t And from what I have read and seen, they generally agree with the theology of the Filioque. The argument is in language and whether the Pope can unilaterally change the creed. Since St Maximus the confessor, a Greek father, defended the Filioque
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y.o.t.@_y_o_t·
While schismatic churches, such as the EO, are in a less imperfect communion with the Catholic Church, their errors are graver than those of the protestants. Generally, protestants at least do not profess errors about the Trinity and the Incarnation, whereas EOs, OO and ACoE do.
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@_y_o_t So does the Spirit spirate from the Father and Son as two separate spirations or as one spiration?
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@_y_o_t I mean, I would argue the EO don’t actually deny the Filioque, unless you are referring to its inclusion in the creed?
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y.o.t.@_y_o_t·
@JJay1776 For the EOs: the denial of the filioque primarily. For the OOs: the denial of the filioque AND monophysitism. For the ACoE: the denial of the filioque AND nestorianism.
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Stephen Kokx@StephenKokx·
I've never met Cardinal Burke. He surely seems pious and sincere. But he refers to the TLM as the 'Extraordinary Form' of the Mass and he repeatedly claims Catholics are merely 'attached' to it - this is the language of the revolution. His Excellency also supports the hermeneutic of continuity and urges us to accept the liturgical crumbs given to us by the enemies of Tradition when Tradition has all the rights. This effectively turns Trads into enablers of the Modernist coup while legitimizing the authority of the squatters who are occupying the Vatican. 'Error has no right to exist,' said Pius XII. Neither does the synodal church. I've said it before, and I apologize to those who revere him, but he's the Jeb Bush of Tradition. I wish he wasn't. And Michael Matt is Don King.
Michael J. Matt@Michael_J_Matt

Cardinal Burke is NOT the enemy! Please SHARE At the conclusion of this year’s Chartres Pilgrimage, His Eminence Raymond Cardinal Burke offered the pontifical Latin Mass in the iconic Cathedral of Our Lady of Chartres. It was the most high profile TLM of 2026 and quickly became front page news from Paris to Rome. As Providence would have it, I found myself in the front row of the Cathedral for that Mass for only the second time in thirty-five years walking to Chartres. (In years past, I was always buried in the sea of pilgrim humanity outside, and happy to be in that company.) This year was different. So, for me the 2026 Pilgrimage to Chartres concluded with the unexpected honor of receiving Holy Communion from Cardinal Burke himself. This special little grace prompts me to briefly say something about the Cardinal, vis-à-vis the upcoming SSPX episcopal consecrations. In my latest Underground (link in comments), I demonstrate how the enemy’s main objective is to divide and conquer the clans of sacred Tradition and how, conversely, our main objective must be to not let that happen. One of the ways to not let that happen is to bear in mind that good men will come down on both sides of the issue of episcopal consecrations without papal mandate. No one disputes the fact that this is an extraordinary emergency measure – not without considerable controversy – and thus not everyone will be in lockstep agreement. A prince of the Church such as Raymond Cardinal Burke, for example, can be opposed to the SSPX decision for all the right reasons. If he genuinely believes the SSPX is going into schism on July 1, 2026, he has not only the right but also the duty before God to speak his mind for the good of souls, as he sees it. We need not anathematize him for this. Even if we disagree with Cardinal Burke on this – and I do! – we can nevertheless appreciate the Cardinal’s sense of duty and pastoral solicitude. He is NOT the enemy. He did not start the fire. The thing that puts us at odds over this is the Revolution itself. And if we turn against good and holy priests like Cardinal Burke over this issue then the Revolution wins. And we must not let that happen. I have lived through this once before, in 1988, and I know from experience that the civil war is so very avoidable. The SSPX is clear in their intentions: They are not leaving the Church. They are not denying the pope's authority. They are not going into schism. They are attempting, in accord with Canon Law, to prioritize the defense of the Faith itself as the first imperative, and to minister to souls during the most dangerous crisis of Faith in the history of the Church. (What is this crisis all about and why is it without precedent? See my new Underground, link in comments) And so, with all due respect, I disagree with Cardinal Burke on this issue. And that is all. I am not infallible. I could be wrong. But this is how I see it. And, despite this disagreement, I am forever grateful to His Eminence for what he has done to stand with us and to help raise the profile of the traditional Catholic restoration movement worldwide. Bottom line: I have listened to and prayerfully considered Cardinal Burke’s arguments on this question, and I have done the same with those of His Excellency Bishop Athanasius Schneider (with whom I find myself in agreement). So be it. There will be no circular firing squad, no mutually assured destruction, no civil war. We put it all in God’s hands and then return to the battlefield together – to fight against the real enemy, who hates our God, our Church, and everything we hold sacred. Let us not forget who the real enemy is . . . and it is certainly not Cardinal Burke! God bless the SSPX, God bless the FSSP, God bless Cardinal Burke, God bless Bishop Schneider – and to hell with the evil Spirit of Vatican II that if we let it in, will divide and conquer us all. So, please God, let’s not let it in.

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Eagle@JJay1776·
@StephenKokx Holy schismatic. Bro disagrees even with the sspx 💀
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Stephen Kokx@StephenKokx·
The sooner the SSPX realizes the Vatican is not interested the better. They need to go on the offensive with their messaging by taking the fight to the heart of the matter: denounce Leo as head of the conciliar church, accuse him of being in schism with the great popes of the past for adhering to the Vatican II false religion, declare it is Leo who is 'canonically irregular' with the Catholic Church not the Society, and state that it would be an honor to be 'excommunicated' by men who approve of gay blessings and LGBT pilgrimages. 💪
AdVaticanum@RealAdVaticanum

The Superior General of the SSPX has said he is “astonished” that Pope Leo XIV has not personally responded to the society’s request for talks ahead of planned episcopal consecrations on 1 July. Fr Davide Pagliarani also said he still hopes to meet the Pope before consecrations Read full article here: advaticanum.com/article/sspx-s…

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Eagle@JJay1776·
@ThomasDominus2 @badatcatholic I guess I’d want to know why you think the Tridentine Mass is more salvific than the novus ordo. Or the novus ordo being not salvific at all, because that’s what it sounds like you are saying, and thus why the necessity exists?
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TradScolastique@ThomasDominus2·
@badatcatholic @JJay1776 False equivalence. Those souls may be ministered to by another priest. But the mass is at stake here. If the modernists had their way, the Tridentine Mass would be a relic of history and the great apostasy would be complete and total.
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@EddieJamro84189 I’m interested in the Sunday worship, do you worship on a Saturday? And if so how do you not find it biblical?
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Eddie Jamrocker@EddieJamro84189·
My dear Catholic friends? Why do you believe so many things that cannot be proven from scripture? Eucharist? Not biblical. Ascension of Mary? Not biblical Saints in heaven? We are only told that Moses Enoch and Elijah are there David is in heaven? Not biblical The golden thing represents Christ? Definitely not biblical. Prayers to the dead? Not biblical Sunday worship? Not biblical Indulgences? Not biblical Purgatory? Not biblical Veneration of Mary? Not biblical Bowing to the statues? Not biblical Hail Mary as prayers? Not biblical And I could go on and on and on.....
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@ThomasDominus2 So the sacraments are unavailable to some you would say?
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@Mary_is_Queen @ThomasDominus2 What do you mean by B? That the Novus Ordo does not confer the sacraments? And if so, which rites do confer the sacraments?
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@redleger In the limited character space i have 😔, the Catholic Church is historically the Church of Christ, and the faith it has is consonant with the Apostolic faith
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Henry Knox uses drones now.
Im considering converting to Catholocism. Give me your thoughts. I dont know how to write my reasons so sell me on yes or no.
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@AL_J82 Do I not need to go to church?
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Alton T. Johnson@AL_J82·
Them: "come to divine liturgy/mass" Us: "come to Christ"
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@Allesontiire May i point out Tyndale wasn't charged with anything regarding translating the Bible?
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Eddy@Allesontiire·
And they killed millions of people for reading the Bible in their own language and recognizing the word of God as the real authority over the Catholic Church
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Eagle@JJay1776·
@thebeardssss @Allesontiire nobody was killed for that 💀 what do you think the spanish inquisition was? it was under state control more than it was Papal or church control. it was ecclesiastical in the sense that it dealt with things like heresies and such
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beards@thebeardssss·
@JJay1776 @Allesontiire Oh yeah it’s just a little sin right? The core leadership of the church killing thousands of people for the crime of “believing the Earth is round.” Yeah just a couple of Hail Maries and we’ll clear that one up real easy.
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Eddy@Allesontiire·
Why do Catholics even want to be called Christians? They see Jesus as a biscuit while glorified Mary to godhood, while praying to angels, saints,popes, church fathers and dead bodies. They're a lot closer to Hinduism than Christianity lowkey
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