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@Unite4Sally Yeah you can thank notorious sally haters like Sonicangel98 Wendy Atticus systemlink and princessshannon007 and vaporotem for creating these hate towards sally and why she Bunnie Antione and rotor got those awful redesigns

I legitimately found this image funny when I saw it, because of the contrast. You see this cute little squirrel princess called a rabid animal. But it's funny for another reason. While the artist was joking, Sonic fans unironically think this about Sally's OG design, actually they think this about her in general, that she's an abomination that shouldn't be in Sonic. They are, of course, wrong on every point. Sally belongs in the Sonic franchise, no matter what the haters say. Be like Sally, be the rabid beast losers fear. -Risso Original art by @V0IDEYEDPANDA Edited by me.

@PsycoTheFrog Sally haters truly dumbass before the mecha sally acr which is the worst since it treated the satam characters minus rotor like dirt they were calling sally a Mary sue but after they were sucking up to him and gaslighting Sally fans to hell and back

And yet an entire anti archie group existed the entire time Ian Flynn was writing and yall only changed your opinions when he rebooted the comics Yall whole character is a popularity contest, and over some comic books yall don't even read

@MuMuffet Who this lovely 😊

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@Unite4Sally Agree the only people like this ship were either sonamy fanbrats or sally haters like vaporotem

LOL. LMAO even. This was forced as hell, don't lie to yourself. Sonic is the only man for her, the only reason this was even a thing is because Ian Flynn wanted Sonic to be with Amy. I think he chose Khan because they have a similar color pallet. -Risso

@TPietras50258 If they do bring back sally I hope it the pre genesis version and not the post genesis version and same with Bunnie Antione and rotor

Hello everyone! Wanted to bring you another update about the Sally plush! She has been trending number 1 for the last several weeks, and is now over 1700! community.youtooz.com/design/900 #sallyacorn #rally4sally #youtooz

@all_4sally Fyi I’m not saying they can’t draw lewd artwork I just don’t like hypocrisy and why Archie cave to the sally hating community redesign not only Sally but Bunnie Antione and Rotor

@all_4sally I find it funny the people who complained about sally being naked aka the sally hater would draw their oc or sonic characters they like in suggestive poses and can’t like when the infamous kill sally club was still active the draw their oc is in leather or bondage gear

I want to take this time to address some criticisms and reasons why Sally Acorn among other characters can't come back. Number One, the claim that Sega doesn't own them. This has already been debunked. Sega owns The Freedom Fighters, they own everything from SatAM and even AoSTH. Sega can use the Freedom Fighters whenever they want. If this was a problem, Sega likely would not have acknowledged Archie Comics on their redesigned web page last year (Even if it is just them quoting the manual) or given a slight cameo to Sally. Sega also would probably have not allowed Spinball to still be accessible or even told IDW to remove Sally's cameo in the Forces Prequel comic. The Archie lawsuit affected some of the characters. Not all. Even characters like Fiona Fox and Mina Mongoose could theoretically come back. Not saying they're guaranteed but they're still likely. Number Two, the claim that she's irrelevant or not needed. Sega has been willing to bring back older characters in the past, not sure why they wouldn't allow Sally. Many franchises bring back prior characters, be it for nostalgia or the belief that they can add to the story. Super Mario Bros brought back the character Pauline after many years, and the upcoming movie is bringing back classic characters as well. It's good for OG fans and newer fans. I've seen some claim that The Diamond Cutters cover the whole Freedom Fighters thing. First, that implies that you don't see Tangle, Whisper or Lanolin as their own characters, just mere replacements. That will hurt their legacy because a chunk of fans will always call them the 'Discount Freedom Fighters' or 'Freedom Fighters at Home'. That never goes over well and it's why IDW gets some of the criticism it does. These characters are not Sally, not Bunnie, not Antoine and not Rotor. Archie had many Freedom Fighter factions with their own special skills that didn't need to overshadow each other. So there's no reason the Knothole Freedom Fighters can't coexist with The Diamond Cutters. Number Three, she doesn't fit. What does this mean? She doesn't fit design wise? She can be made to work. Sega themselves have had a model made of Sally and the other Freedom Fighters showing what they could look like in game. Or she doesn't fit because she's not built like Sonic and friends? By that logic, we can't have The Diamond Cutters because they're not built either. Bunnie is more built than them. Granted I get that some people may dislike Tangle and Whisper for the same reason they dislike Sally, because they're American made characters and they feel like these characters don't belong in a Japanese made game. I can respect that to an extent, but I will still disagree. Number Four...because she's nude. Not gonna lie, that's the dumbest reason I've heard so far. Last I checked, Sonic is nude too, and so are Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Silver and many other characters. The excuse is that she's a girl, and can't be nude. Comments like that are why Sonic fans get called misogynistic. If you're focused on a cartoon chipmunk being "nude" then you need better priorities in life. Sally is not the first "nude" female in media. I don't think anyone complained about girls like Fifi LaFume this way, or that recent Kirby character, Clawlorine. If they did, they gotta go out for some fresh air. Number Five, she would take Sonic away from Amy. There's more to Sally's character than just being a love interest. Of course people will still ship Sonally if they like it, but if you're that worried about Sally taking Sonic away, it just shows a lack of confidence in Amy. And if you're the type that's bothered when Sonic is shipped with Sally rather than Amy, then that's not criticism. That's selfishness. I dislike Sonamy, but I won't bug the fans saying that Amy isn't good enough, so try that when it comes to Sally. Ship what you want, but don't be a clod. The big one is that the Freedom Fighters have had their time and fans need to move on. On one hand, I can almost understand that. On the other, if you like a character, there's nothing wrong with wanting to see the character again. Telling people to move on from Sally, Cosmo, Tekno, Sticks or any other character isn't helpful, it's just plain rude. Telling them to move on might make them keep going, even out of spite. If you have time to make a claim like that, use that time to think about what to say instead of something so pointless. Now, not everyone wants Sally. Not everyone likes her. Understandable. But if people want Sally to come back, that's their God Given Right as people with Free Will. So long as the person isn't being too annoying. I don't expect this list to change many minds. Some people are stubborn. But to those more open minded, I hope this helps. ~MR

@Unite4Sally Sorry you getting a lot of shit from Ian apologist I thought for second if Ken did the mecha sally arc an forced the redesign on the satam characters these people would have rioted

Well, you CAN do that, if it expands on the world and characters. But, IDW doesn't do that, it's odd, it acts like it's canon, but ultimately isn't. A friend of mine described it as "canon-lite." I think it's mainly due to Iizuka wanting to keep it on brand. It looks canon, but-

@PsycoTheFrog This clown is show the reason why most sally fans dislike the post genesis wave redesign x.com/_SirAntMan_/st…

Bro your pfp is a fuckin Teddy Bear. Sound logic Mans musta thought Animal Planet was porn 🤣

@_SirAntMan_ @all_4sally Really dude fuck off I bet you sally hating mother fuckers have nsfw artwork of rouge the bat so shut up with moral policing

So it's time I say something about some of the drama that's been happening lately. Yes, Tangle and Whisper are in CrossWorlds. It was announced a few months back, and since that announcement, things have been kind of hectic to say the least. Over the last few months, Tangle and Whisper have been added CrossWorlds, Sonic Rumble, been featured in JP Art, TailsTube and were part of the Chaotix Radio Show. It's kind of strange though. IDW's been a thing for years, why is Sega going this hard now? I'm not sure. People have been going back and forth on whether they're considered canon or not. Or if IDW is canon or not. I'm not sure, there's evidence for both. If it's canon, whatever. If it's not, whatever. But I do need to explain why some fans felt jilted, especially Archie fans. Archie has had a span of twenty five years in circulation. That is the longest any video game franchise has had a comic book for. Archie set records for Sega. The characters are beloved by fans. But one bad day led to Archie's downfall and eventual cancellation. But in those twenty five years, you gotta wonder. Why has Sega never really given Sally, Bunnie, Antoine, Rotor or anyone else that same level of respect? The same could apply to Sonic X. Given the impact that show has had, and how beloved those characters were, why is Sonic Prime the one getting characters in CrossWorlds? What puts Nine and Rusty Rose over someone like Cosmo? Better yet, why didn't Cosmo get this treatment? Or given how her story ended, at least explain why characters like Topaz didn't get a second chance. Or Chris? (Yeah, I said it, fight me). But back when Archie was a thing, I feel like at any point, Sega could have worked to get these characters into the games, or something. And I know they had some nonsense regarding copyright, but the fact is that not all of them had that trouble. Sally, Bunnie, Rotor, Antoine, they could have been in the games at any point. They have the character and the backstory to pull in the fans. Do Tangle and Whisper have that? What about them is appealing to their fans? Can their fans name anything notable that the two were in? Any notable story? If you can name a reason to justify why Sega prioritizes them, please take the floor. This isn't sarcasm, communication can really help people understand your favorite characters. Look, I don't dislike Tangle and Whisper, I don't even dislike most of the IDW characters. I do like characters like Jewel and Surge. What I don't like is Sega's blatant favoritism lately. Between SatAM, AoSTH, X, Boom, Archie and Fleetway, what makes IDW more deserving than any of them? Call it sour grapes, call it jealousy, but this feels strange. I hope Sega is not intentionally trying to give the finger to these franchises. But not all hope is lost. Sally could be getting merch if things go well. And hey, Sally might appear in Sonic Blitz. If Sega gives Sally, Cosmo, Sticks, Tekno or anyone else from the past a little bit of respect, I don't think people would be as bothered by IDW. Archie doesn't need to be canon. But the characters can still be. Same with the others. If you're out there as an IDW fan, and you have a problem with Archie fans, that says more about you than Archie. Because if you have to knock Archie down by saying pointless things like "It's not canon" or whatever, then it just means you don't have as much faith in IDW as Sega seems to. @SEGA Remember, you can still make fans of SatAM/Archie, X, Boom, Fleetway, Underground, AoSTH and Prime very happy. ~MR

@all_4sally I would love to support it but wish they also made her pre genesis wave version since don’t like the post genesis version constant reminder that she was jack up by eggman weaponized her thanks ian for shock value 😑

1000 votes reached for the Sally Plush on Youtooz! This is what happens when Sally fans work together. The number is still growing too. This doesn’t confirm anything, but it should let Sega know that there is a demand for Sally merch.

@SonicDramaDaily I find it funny the same people who gawked at this are same people who would gaslight Sally fans and accused them of fetishized Sally while they have nsfw pics of rouge the bat

@TPietras50258 @all_4sally But was it necessary to have eggman jack up and reassemble sally like that if ken penders this he wouldn’t have praises like Ian was that the point I didn’t like how the satam characters minus rotor were treated

@Jack18893 @all_4sally He talked about it on his podcast. It really had nothing to do with that, just a dramatic twist to raise the stakes for the story. The plan was always that the Freedom Fighters would win and come back stronger than ever. If you want the BumbleKast links I have em.

I'd like to discuss an Archie Fan Project that's been in the works for quite a while. Archie Sonic Online. As Archie fans are aware, the original Archie timeline hit an abrupt end with the Super Genesis Wave. This was in the middle of the Mecha Sally arc, and unfortunately it meant that it never got resolved. Several years ago, a dedicated group decided to continue where the mainline Archie Comics left off. It resolved the Mecha Sally Arc and was ready to continue its story. It was a good concept and it explored some interesting ideas. One such being how the Mecha Sally arc affected Sally herself, and her struggling with PTSD over it all. Quite honestly, Sally suffering from trauma makes sense given that she's been dealing with stuff from a young age. Being forced into being a monster would mess with her. It delved into mental health issues, which may not always be entertaining. It can work depending on how it's done. I feel like Metal Gear Solid is a good example of how to get it done. Plus, even superheroes in Marvel and DC have taken time to address their mental health. As long as it's not overdone then I think it works. Make in an arc for Sally to get through and have her come out stronger. Heroes should overcome obstacles after all. But I liked seeing Sonic taking care of Sally like that. Sonic is a good boyfriend to Sally. Other things it does is continue the storyline regarding Geoffrey St. John's allegiance to Naugus as well as following up on Hershey going missing. It gives Geoffrey a nice story arc as well. And we get some bonding moments with Nicole and Mina. Those two have a good friendship and I think there's potential for more with these girls. There were also some side stories about other aspects of Mobian life. Stuff involving Monkey Khan, adventures with The Chaotix and even stories for Blaze and Marine. Those are the Sonic Universe continuations. It also follows up on a story involving Scourge, Fiona and Rouge, including Rouge potentially opening the door for Fiona's redemption arc. That's one story arc I eagerly await to see a follow up on. Another good one involved the parallels between Sally Acorn and Amy Rose. The two girls after Sonic's heart. It highlights less of their supposed rivalry, and reminds the readers that the two are meant to be friends. It also continues and expands upon Sally's friendship with Knuckles. Granted there was at least one OOC moment with Knuckles regarding Sally, but I'll chalk that up to him being relieved that she's okay. Beyond that, it's nice seeing old callbacks. There's even music. Sort of. Lyrics written for a scene, and creates a nice little "What if Nicole could sing". Nicole could be as good as Hatsune Miku if she put her mind to it. It even does something for Sonic Underground as well, which should have had a bit more relevance in Archie. Many opportunities could open up with Manic and Sonia interacting with the main Archie Cast. It's a great concept and good for anyone who wanted a proper resolution to the Mecha Sally arc among others. Plus it has the potential to continue on with more incredible stuff. The team has a lot on their plate as they decided to continue the Archie Sonic Reboot story as well. Not my first pick for a story that needs a continuation but I suppose the Post Reboot has its fans as well. Now unfortunately, the comics have run into several delays. Sonic #255 is scheduled to release soon, but the comic team has seemingly run into some behind the scenes concerns. It's a familiar story. A clash of ideas is leading into a lack of order. Now I am not there, so I don't know the full story, but I have heard tips from people who may have something on the inside. A clash of beliefs can lead to things going nowhere. Many on the team likely do not understand the characters and aren't able to write them well. The story has a risk of feeling less like a genuine continuation and more like typical Fanfiction. I've seen how certain liberties destroy certain comics. Comics like Archie Sonic Forever. I have also heard less than ideal things about the Fleetway Sonic fan continuation as well. If you're going to do a comic that you deem a successor to official media, then yes, you should try to focus on making it as canon and believable as possible. The moment you stray, you lose your fanbase, and things become difficult. Archie Sonic Online is a great idea, but if behind the scenes trouble is making things difficult, then I suggest a shake up. I've seen some writers and artists who would make very fitting additions to the team. Personally, I would not mind joining the team myself. My art skills are very amateurish so don't expect me to draw a panel. Coloring is a maybe, but I'm bad at shading. Writing I can handle though, with some good editors at least. Perhaps it's not best for me to brag about myself or insist I can do it, but I am willing to do my part if I can. Anything I can do to help Archie, I will do so. If you really love Archie, then I feel like you should want the best for it. Hire the correct people, the ones who put the characters first. The comic was going so well until it hit an unfortunate snag. As of recently, the last comic did come out a couple of months ago. It was a Universe Comic. So they're not doing too bad but I think they could do more if they had proper unity. The comic is still ongoing on course, but it has so many amazing things, I could almost consider them canon. Pros (so far): Good characterization, interesting stories, solid continuation, Sonally. Cons (so far): Potential inconsistency, risk of stretching a plot too far. Archie Sonic Online has potential, and it did well. Let's make sure it stays doing well, and fills the void of Archie fans while also introducing newer fans to Archie Sonic. ~MR

@TPietras50258 @all_4sally I remember sally haters like vaporotem on the bumbleking forum saying Sally should says robot forever but point is why did Ian think was good idea jack up Sally like she didn’t need to be weaponized I was just excuse put clothes are her son the Sally haters would stop whining

@Jack18893 @all_4sally To be fair, the intention was always going to be that it was a twist and Sally would be fixed eventually. We just dont know when.

@richkbydesign @Fliviartoon @sonic_hedgehog @yardleyart Their redesign were terrible and only to appeased the sally hating community

@Fliviartoon @sonic_hedgehog @yardleyart Correct. The 2010s is when Sega AND Archie BRAGGED about redesigning the Freedom Fighters to be "on brand" AND even created CGI models of them for possible future games. You can hide it all you want, but you cant ERASE history from those who experienced it. I saved EVERYTHING!🫵

The 2010s marked big changes but even bigger growth for Sonic and friends (and SEGA!). Jump back in to the mania of an era filled with fun, new stories, and a whole lotta heart! 🎨: @yardleyart

Well that's been a bigger reaction than I got in a while.... Eh. Here's the sketch colored in. #Sallyacorn #Sonicthehedgehog

@Ome1450324 @MagisterOfOz

Suggestion sketch 02, It seems that Pauline has been taken out of the race by someone that wants to win by any means neccesary... Pauline from Mario series

Reese meet with a fellow employee for a after work date at their house with drinks and more, little did she know her date had some other plans for that sassy Texan Raptor gal Reese voiced by bsky.app/profile/doveny… Art drawn by @Kittisri999