Jamie GillGuyan

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Jamie GillGuyan

@JamieGuyan

Host and producer of @tlkopod - available on all good podcast providers 👌

Aberdeen Katılım Aralık 2010
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@JamieGuyan @CiaranFowler Exactly! I used to never want to believe it was about the money but at the end of the day of course it is 😂
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@JamieGuyan @CiaranFowler For sure! 👌 Some of my favourite games involved him, Miovski, Duk, Pollock, MacDonald etc! All been and gone now 🤣
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@JamieGuyan @CiaranFowler Pity he went off to the 🧟‍♂️ Cracking photo though! 👌
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
The consistency debate starts early. Until fans and teams accept that every decision has a range of reasonable responses within which a decision is not incorrect, this madness will never end. The same incident can correctly be viewed as a red card by one and a yellow another
Heart of Midlothian FC@JamTarts

Heart of Midlothian will appeal the red card shown to Stuart Findlay during Saturday's match at Aberdeen. The club feels it is only right to inform our supporters that not only do we share their grievances, we are also taking appropriate action to rectify the matter. Read ⬇️

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Luke@LukeBoyle04·
@SPFLWatch Absolutely, especially after only one game. The article is genuinely horrendous too
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
@afc1903mad FTAOD I think red is correct. I also think yellow is correct in ‘well. I don’t think it’s DOGSO. And I think Boyle’s touch downgrades it to BPA and yellow. But it’s a game of opinions and I can see the view that ‘wells is red I just don’t agree.
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afc1903mad@afc1903mad·
@JamieGuyan I’ve yet to see anyone show Findlay attempt to play the ball and don’t recall seeing that either My recollection is that the ball is never within a playable distance I’m off to watch it again 😜
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
@afc1903mad A lot of people disagree. A lot of people think Findley does attempt to play the ball, tries to hook a leg and wasn’t far off. Ex referees and fans. The word genuine isn’t in the law. So it’s a debate on whether there was ‘no possibility of playing the ball’ some say there was.
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afc1903mad@afc1903mad·
@JamieGuyan Except you are discounting the requirement that defines a yellow or red which is whether there was a genuine attempt to play the ball In both instances, neither player attempts to play the ball
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
@afc1903mad For me I think they’re both within a range of reasonable outcomes - I think fans can be disappointed it didn’t go their way in the same way you’re disappointed if someone misses a guilt edged chance. I do think both decisions are entirely justifiable in their own right though.
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afc1903mad@afc1903mad·
@JamieGuyan I agree hearts statement is hysterical because it has no merit Their only argument is the inconsistency with the Priestman yellow card which in effect, met the same requirements as Findlays There is (in my opinion) inconsistency between the Dickinson and McLean decisions
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
@afc1903mad I haven’t given a view and I’m not debating the actual decision at the moment. I’m rebutting Hearts’ statement which I think is hysterical and systemic of this ridiculous consistency debate we keep hearing. People are allowed , and have , different views on these incidents.
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afc1903mad@afc1903mad·
@JamieGuyan It’s fine to debate but you must offer something to the debate to substantiate your view My question was simply (in line with the Laws of the Game), where was the genuine attempt to play the ball If that can be shown then yes, there is a case for it to be a yellow
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
@afc1903mad Well it literally is subjective. You can think it’s unreasonable to have a different view but it’s still a subjective decision. An objective decision is in/out of play. As I say , people can disagree - but accusing the referees of conspiratorial lack of consistency isn’t healthy
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afc1903mad@afc1903mad·
@JamieGuyan I don’t think it is subjective at all There are 4 parts to considering it a DOGSO. Madden agrees it is Where Madden’s view needs to be challenged is at what point is Findlay making a genuine attempt to play the ball I’ve yet to see anyone show that
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
@afc1903mad And while we can all feel aggrieved when we don’t get the decision we want. And we can all debate why we disagree on the correct outcome. There needs to be far more acceptance (particularly in the media) that having a different opinion doesn’t make someone factually wrong.
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
@afc1903mad The laws are subjective, it’s a series of considerations. Your no genuine attempt is someone else’s genuine attempt. Many people think both are and aren’t reds and that’s exactly it. And in a lot of cases different opinions can be justified. Eg. Madden thinks Findley is a 🟡
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
A different referee on a different day might caution Findlay, another might send off Priestman. That isn’t a conspiracy. It’s not even a mistake. It’s a difference of opinion and both are defensible These hysterical statements don’t help anyone. They certainly don’t improve refs.
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Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan·
There are no material consistencies between the incidents. A - it’s different players , at a different time, in a different game, with different officials. B - it’s a different passage of play, at a different angle, with a different touch, and a different challenge.
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