@Jackiebidu Hair pulling , like spitting, is never challenging for the ball as it’s not a footballing action. Like a strike with the arm or foot might be. It will always come under violent conduct for that reason.
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Jamie GillGuyan
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Jamie GillGuyan
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Fraud imbecile here conveniently ignored - if the player is not going for ball
Martinez was constantly looking at ball
Jamie GillGuyan@JamieGuyan
@cmwinterburn The official was bang on. Won’t be criticised by the panel. You can disagree with the law, which is IFAB. But the officials did their job.
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@_dan14_ @crease_monkey @cmwinterburn Does it obviously mean that if it doesn’t say it? And you said ‘barely a pull’ which means there was a pull👍
Easy solution to this is don’t pull hair. DCL has played against dozens of other players this seasons and they don’t seem to have ‘accidentally’ ‘barely pulled’ his hair
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@JamieGuyan @crease_monkey @cmwinterburn No obviously it means adequate force, which we have seen hair pulls with more force this season that haven’t been given red due into inadequate force. I also didn’t admit there was a pull that’s the point. Stop trying to be a smart ass it doesn’t suit you
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Would imagine there is growing concern about the standard of officiating in the Premier League. Martinez red card this evening was laughably bad, especially when you consider it wasn’t an on-field red card that was required to be checked. They actively looked for a decision.
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@ErinGrieve17 Makes you wonder what people think taxes should be spent on. I’d be very happy for a society that feeds its children. If it means some millionaires’ children get fed to make sure we feed kids in poverty then that feels like a better way round than kids in poverty going hungry.
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If I was paying taxes I’d be pretty happy for some of that to go towards children getting a slice of toast and an apple because their parents need to get to work before school starts. What a bizarre thing to be angry about.
Julia Hartley-Brewer@JuliaHB1
The breakfasts are not free. They are paid for by taxes - mostly on parents who feed their own kids. Most of these 10,000 children would have had a perfectly healthy breakfast at home without these clubs. This isn't about helping the poorest kids, it's the state taking over the basic job of parenting.
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@_dan14_ @crease_monkey @cmwinterburn A. There’s ’force’ in everything. Admitting there’s a pull means it had ‘force’.
But - the law doesn’t say that. You’re quoting a screenshot which will be guidance of some description. The law is 12.4 violent conduct para 2.
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@JamieGuyan @crease_monkey @cmwinterburn The law says there has to be force in the pull, there’s barely a pull never mind force
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I'm so sick of football executives saying young people don't have the attention span for 90 minute games and prefer highlights.
They absolutely have an appetite for full matches. It's the fact that highlights are free that make them more appealing to the new gen.
Seb Stafford-Bloor@SebSB
The way football is willing to contort itself in a way to appeal to younger people without reducing ticket prices is astounding.
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🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Every single game someone says a decision is “ the WORST decision I have ever seen”
From grass roots to the Premier league, it’s just so embarrassing, just shut up and concentrate on your own mistakes.
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🚨 Michael Carrick: “It’s shocking to send off Licha. Shocking”. “One of the WORST decisions I have EVER seen”.
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@crease_monkey @cmwinterburn Second paragraph under violent conduct. Law 12.4.
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@JamieGuyan @cmwinterburn How was he bang on? Show us the law regarding what he said was violent conduct.
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@cmwinterburn Just make it up as they go along based on vibes?
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@JamieGuyan I agree they are badly let down by the laws, but also anyone who looks at that and thinks it’s something worthy of showing a red card for and putting their name/face to that decision shouldn’t be anywhere near football.
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@d_andradesport @loogantwit It’s binary, the referee didn’t see a hair pull and there was a hair pull. It doesn’t get clearer or more obvious. You can argue whether you like the rule (long standing rule implemented as recently as January). But clear and obvious doesn’t come into it!
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@loogantwit It's just ridiculously soft and highlights once again that the game is going in the wrong direction. They're a CF and CB who want to tussle. Tell DCL to get on with it. Almost like they used it as an opportunity to get involved. Wasn't clear and obvious.
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@Millar_Colin @Ankaman616 @JackPittBrooke I find it baffling that anyone would condone hair pulling. It’s never ever an accident and it’s pathetic, childish and completely avoidable. Martinez had 100% control of that situation and whether he pulls his hair. Just because DCL isn’t hurt shouldn’t mean it isn’t a red.
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@Millar_Colin @Ankaman616 @JackPittBrooke It’s a totally and utterly different situation. There are categories of violent conduct, hair pull has 0 threshold, it doesn’t have to be colloquial ‘violence’. There are other categories of violent conduct that also have different thresholds. They aren’t squarely comparable.
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Not sure about a system where that is a VAR red card but Brobbey on Romero/Kinsky is not.
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@Millar_Colin @Ankaman616 @JackPittBrooke Or it’s like comparing apples and kangaroos. Not everything needs to be whataboutary.
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@JackPittBrooke Reflective of an officiating system that is actively removing subjectivity from decision-making. An entirely inconsequential hair pull = clearly categorised red card. A deliberate push resulting in serious injury = not meeting any arbitrary threshold for intervention.
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I stand corrected. Seems to be the ‘accidental hair pull’ brigade.
You’d think if it was so easily done by accident we’d have seen it a lot more often 👀
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Country’s in the pits and this is what we’re presented with - piss poor twitter insult swapping.
Wes Streeting@wesstreeting
Have you managed to get Scottish Green candidates to drop calls to abolish prisons or is this a competition with the ‘breast enlargement hypnotherapist’ down south as to which of you can hold the wackiest position?
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@FreeNwakali He’s looking at the offside line (rightly) as he takes the shot, which is lightening quick. By the time he turns his head the bounce has happened and he can’t guess. Extremely harsh to criticise that. The subs don’t know at all they’re just screaming for it like the fans were.
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Absolutely mental how bad the officials were yesterday. How Dickinson never gave the pen without VAR was crazy as was how Douglas Ross never saw Nisbets shot cross the line despite all of our subs knowing with 100% certainty it was in
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@geeman909 There’s no way a Lino can see that , he’s looking at the offside line the shot flashes in he needs to change his view and he’s nowhere near in line (rightly ). We need goal line technology. But an assistant cannot ever honestly have said that’s 100% a goal.
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@ABRM2121 Violent conduct. The part where he punches him in the back of the head.
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That’s a stonewall red card. But I can’t think of the last time we got a stroke of luck so we’ll take it.
Scott Millar@scottmillar1
VAR says to go to monitor, ref looks at it and just gives a yellow. 😳
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@BillBuffalino @keeza1903 The yellow by the referee is probably the most peculiar outcome. He is saying it’s a reckless strike to the back of the head. Genuinely think that’s the least sensible outcome. If you don’t think it’s a red that’s fine, but yellow doesn’t come into it.
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@BillBuffalino @keeza1903 Which doesn’t even make sense. It’s either a red for violence or not. You can’t have soft violence so he either thinks it’s soft and not a red or violent and it is.
But for me - punching someone in the back of the head, is a red card. You’re not even allowed to do that in boxing
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