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@JasonDChen

Accountant turned Musician with no swag

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Michael Saylor
Michael Saylor@saylor·
There are 110 things more dangerous to Bitcoin than spam. BIP 110 turns a spam dispute into a consensus change that would invalidate some currently valid, fee-paying transactions. That precedent is the danger. We should save our energy for threats that really matter. $BTC
Adam Back@adam3us

On the filter fork topic. I don't usually have time, but this morning listened to one of the twitter spaces from earlier in the week, with some well meaning relative bitcoin newcomers, that humanized them, and their concerns and thoughts for why they thought that made it logical to support 110. My feeling after listening, is if these are the people with #110 in their handles, I'm sad to see them about to fork off and get disillusioned without understanding why bitcoin rejected 110 robustly. So here's a more empathetic, constructive higher level version of explaining why not. I hope it's high-level and first-principles enough that everyone can follow. They seem to want to understand what makes people tick, and are suspicious of intent. So, if someone asked me why is Bitcoin important and what is it, I'd say my (personal) mission and hope for bitcoin is to build the cypherpunk future, that "Snow Crash" was a blueprint, and work backwards from there. Bitcoin I hope leads to fully free markets via bearer unseizable, hard mathematically dependable money. Not everyone is comfortable with that level of freedom, but that's my view. And at this point, I believe that surprisingly, even now many governments have come to understand and value bitcoin's gold-like mathematical assurance, a positive development. Others may have milder views than myself, but still like hard censorship resistant money. Because of motive suspicion, if it's not obvious: I hate spam with a passion, that's how I came to design hashcash while researching decentralized bearer money with others, and running nodes in privacy related cypherpunk p2p networks nearly three decades ago. People seem upset about the default op return policy change in bitcoin. I will just assert, there are extremely robust and simple reasons for bitcoin changing default relay policy, and most just didn't do their research, so don't know what those are, or maybe not technical enough to fully understand though there have been 1000s of posts trying to explain in various simplified ways. So that lack of understanding lends itself to shared build-up of false narratives. So here's my back-to-basics higher level explanation. The decentralization needed to create cypherpunk money has implications a: side effect of decentralization is that you can't impose your views on others. The very decentralization mechanism that helps that, is working against what BIP 110 wants, which at it's most basic is a quest to police other people. I understand supporters don't see their intent like that, but introspect deeper. You can modify your software, but not anyone else's. Another critical and incredibly robust technical bitcoin immune system is bitcoin can't have people who don't understand technology basics insist on eroding security, decentralization robustness and core properties. That would end badly, fast, and so people will fight you on that. So the message is Bitcoin respectfully says "no" to what you want. Sorry, and bitcoiners do genuinely understand and empathize that you mean well, have high level thoughts that make emotional sense, and articulate sensible bitcoin-defensive high level ideas, but they are not grounded and without you seeing it, the way you propose to achieve your ideas, hard-conflict with free cypherpunk permissionless money. My advice is to listen to more experienced people who understand the system and why it works the way it does, to whatever detail you want to understand the grounded reasons for why this is the implication of decentralization and cypherpunk money. I guarantee you the developer and protocol ecosystem shares and exceeds your views on bearer hard money (and dislike of spam). You may not agree with individual developers choices, views, way of expressing themselves etc, BUT you also need to understand the IETF-like decentralized technical consensus process creates a protective change resistance, that is highly effective at protecting bitcoin mission. The implication of which is no developer can change anything without technical consensus from hundreds of other developers and protocol observers who are pedantic and extremely knowledgeable clever people who won't let any unaddressed technical question past. The protective change resistance is robust and decentralized in an amplifying way because of this technical consensus. And the many highly technical mainline developers' cypherpunk mission mindsets are probably far more determined than you can even handle on clarity of understanding and views about freedoms on permissionless networks, as many of you are probably still subconsciously inured by the matrix, where they have transcended that, and grew up immersed in it decades ago. They think natively in this space, while you are just grappling with the surface. Many wont have internalized or have the experience to know how this internet physics works, where there is no policeman, no policy authority, just mathematics, free market and hard money. That has implications for your views also, unfortunately. Now the tough pill, which is unfortunately true: If you won't listen to reason, educate yourself, learn, the same radical freedom applies to you: your permissionless recourse is to club together and create a fork. But bitcoin won't be joining it. (With respect and no sleight intended.) Please rejoin bitcoin now, or later if you're not convinced and need to experience 110 forking off and fizzling for yourself to start that journey of introspecting and learning. It would be sad if bitcoin lost people disillusioned due to simple lack of understanding of what's going on there, we're all trying to defend bitcoin and keep it on mission. Including btw the 110 technical promoters, just they wandered off plot somehow. Join the cypherpunks on bitcoin, come cypherpunk summer🌞 in a few weeks.

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Justin Bechler #BIP-110
⚠️ Imagine getting more votes than Craig Wright, Jameson Lopp and Udi Wertheimer. Combined. 🤯
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Matthew R. Kratter #BIP-110
Matthew R. Kratter #BIP-110@mattkratter·
Not all people can handle the volatility of $STRC, so I’m grateful that we have Bitcoin for risk averse investors like myself
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Gwart
Gwart@GwartyGwart·
Why don’t they just tokenize the oil in the Middle East and transport it across permissionless financial rails, thereby avoiding the Strait of Hormuz altogether
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hodlonaut #BIP-110
hodlonaut #BIP-110@hodlonaut·
I've spent the last month looking closely at how Bitcoin Core and the network around it has operated the last years. A blatant cultural and philosophical shift. Shocking arrogance and contempt for dissent on display around the OP_RETURN uncap. Opposition was reframed as "harassment", "drama" and "brigading". Consensus was simply declared, in the face of massive controversy and opposition. Bitcoin is imo clearly drifting towards “anything goes if there is a use case out there” relativism. Bitcoin is supposed to be money. That's the mission. Separating money and state. Not being a data layer adapting to the needs of venture-backed projects. Staying neutral while Bitcoin drifts in this direction isn't something I can justify anymore. It feels urgent that something is done to counter it.
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Ordinals Wallet
Ordinals Wallet@ordinalswallet·
Not sure if y’all been watching or not, but if bip110 goes live you will no longer be able to get inscriptions mined.
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Samson Mow
Samson Mow@Excellion·
Well, I guess it’s all over now and we just have to use CBDCs and be happy owning nothing.
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Jason@JasonDChen·
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Justin Bechler #BIP-110
Is it reasonable to expect that a Core maintainer should be a Bitcoin maximalist?
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Luke de Wolf | BIP-110
Luke de Wolf | BIP-110@lukedewolf·
I want to be clear about one thing in this whole Gloria and Core thing. Gloria herself isn't important. It's the whole structure at Core. Why is it essentially run by one organization (Brink)? Why was a decision made in the first place to promote a junior dev to repository maintainer over more senior alternatives? Let alone someone who has obvious contempt for "Bitcoin maximalism". The whole system is captured. The funding mechanism, the management structure, everything. Core is the illusion of an open source project. Knots is actually barely a "fork" (in the software sense) of Core. It's still mostly the Core code base, just sanity checked and modified where needed. But at least it isn't being run like a commercial software by a central command structure. I want other implementations to develop that are entirely separate. But Knots is more than good enough for me for now. It aligns with my conception of Bitcoin (Bitcoin as money). Core treats Bitcoin like a software project to tinker with. Anything goes if it's consensus valid. Preserving Bitcoin as money does not appear to be the priority (even if that is actually the case, the impression is that it is not). This is all to say that I don't have confidence in Bitcoin Core as the reference client implementation for humanity's best shot at fixing the money and getting us out of the fiat system. Core is as fiat as it gets, run in the most traditional way possible. No decentralization. It's run like a corporate software shop. At least noderunners have a choice. Switch to Knots. Take the power away from Core. As said, I hope more implementations emerge. Decentralization is good. And let's get back to focusing on the real problems: central banks, fiat currency, the all-consuming panopticon, and warmongering megalomaniacs. Bitcoin fixing the money is the only thing that gives me hope. Let's get back to that, as soon as possible.
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Douglas A. Boneparth
Douglas A. Boneparth@dougboneparth·
On days like today, I’m glad I’m diversified across stocks, gold and bitcoin because it allows me to lose money in three totally different ways.
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HODLing Like I Mean It - #BIP-110
It is truly extraordinary to witness the demise of one of the Bitcoin OG podcasters that played a significant role in orange-pilling so many Bitcoiners over the years, including myself @stephanlivera has now decided to resort to ad-hominems, strawman fallacies and recycling the same circular logic "arguments" that many Core apologists repeatedly used to push for a widely unpopular change that, at the bare minimum, a significant chunk of Bitcoiners don't want. And to add to the pile, he's now deliberately taking cherry-picked statements out of context, knowing full well what the actual underlying intent and meaning are. @GrassFedBitcoin said it best earlier today... "... you can straw man it if you'd like... but you're just making yourself look like a clown." Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
Stephan Livera@stephanlivera

Mechanic works closely with Luke. Decide for yourself the truth or accuracy of this claim by Mechanic.

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