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@KEN21194

Animanga & novel enjoyer (follow back if you follow me).

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KEN KLEIN
KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@BarFida38586558 Because it different varitaty of yin magic, Yin magic work on time and space in minya its work on Crystalization and more cystalization more stronger(those arrow hit can stop the time of object), Both shamak and Minya part of yin magic. Shamak work on seperation and minya on hard
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I haven't thought of a name@BarFida38586558·
@KEN21194 look at minya for example ul or el minya is just means more minya crystel not this and again there is no explanation why does shamak is like a Swiss Army Knife
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
Mushoko Tensei VS Re:Zero Protagonist: Re zero Characters: Re zero Pacing: Mushoku Tensei Fights: Re zero Villains: Re zero Worldbuilding: Mushoku tensei Magic system: Re zero Premise: Re zero Stakes: Re zero
Lord Hokage 👓@Lord_Hokage_PTS

Mushoko Tensei VS Re:Zero Protagonist: Re zero Characters: Re zero Pacing: Re zero Fights: Mushoku tensei Villains: Mushoku tensei Worldbuilding: Mushoku tensei Magic system: Mushoku tensei Premise: Re zero Stakes: Re zero These are just my opinions, which do you prefer?

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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@BarFida38586558 That is Yin magic. That is why it works like that. What is inconsistent about that? The magic is used to separate things. At a small level, it separates small things like vision and body. At a larger level, it separates you from the world and reality. That is consistent
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I haven't thought of a name@BarFida38586558·
@KEN21194 dude you didnt get what I meant in mt if you are using a fire ball a level above that is a bigger fire ball or smth like that in rz if you are using shamak a smoke bomb how is 2 level above that is a pocket dimention or a wich of envy seal thats the problem it isnt consistent
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@BarFida38586558 Shamak < El Shamak < Ul Shamk < Al Shamak < Ol Shamak I dont think you know anything about rz power system
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I haven't thought of a name@BarFida38586558·
@KEN21194 I dont think how can a rz reader can understand its power system in mt its very understandble the upper class tha magic the stronger it gets and you can combo magic in re zero its whatever plot needs like think about shamak how tf does this smoke bomb becomse a pocket dimention
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 His decisions depend on his past life, his flaws, and how he views the world like an isekai MC. That's why his relationships become strained and he dies multiple times because of that. His past is very crucial. He overcomes that, which is exactly why has so many people around him
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 yeh but no one out here using it to his defense now is it? Also, unlike MT which the MC past is a key factor for how he change in this isekai, Subaru past life is less crucial since his current life is just as bad.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 How are you gonna live after becoming mentally unstable? wtf
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 but stake are simple... RBD, regardless of what it does to the person, is still keeping him ALIVE. if he dies, its over. If he alive, mentally messed up or not, he can still go on living and trying whenever he feels like it.
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 you know its funny because when i told people that sort of like an excuse, they defend RBD. When I say rudeus past life is a curse that he was trying to change in this new life, people attack it. I personally feel like that is a personal preference.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 Most isekai MC don't have better development, depth, complexity, and more themes than Subaru. You didn't even say a single thing about writing just your opinion about what he does and doesn't have
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 Based on what you saying, its like Subaru is only doing ONE ASPECT that most other isekai MC would normally already have to do and not have to do the rest. And if he messes up, he tries again like a video game.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 RBD isn't a blessing, it's a curse. His mind shatters, relationships warp, and he carries knowledge he can't share that isolate him completely. Subaru himself is the stake he can be trapped in an infinite loop, or he can run away and let everyone else die.
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 Now u might be like one of those other RZ fan who told me."he dont know if next time he die, he will die for real". Well, neither do the fans, but what we do know is his RBD probably will save him. So between MT which is most likely dead vs. RBD which keeps u alive... easy choice
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 "Small group? 'It's just boring' that is a personal opinion. Subaru name means 'to unite.' He fights by bringing people together and using their strengths. He gathers information, makes plans, and coordinates everyone. He relies on others for fighting because that is his role.
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 yeh but in a fantasy anime thats not like military strategy, but just a small group of characters, its just boring. Esp. since Rudeus can do the SAME THING and FIGHT with actual combat by himself. While most fights, subaru is relying on someone else.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 RBD doesn't remove the stakes it changes them. Subaru can't reveal rbd, can lose trust and relationships, and he isn't strong or smart enough to solve everything by himself. The stakes isn't whether he and other die, but whether he can find a solution and save everyone(Rem loss)
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 Also, although I put STAKE as RZERO... I honestly can't feel imminent danger for the MC until something unnatural happens (cause of his power being what it is)... At least with MT, he can die and almost actually did.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 Subaru is not the only one fighting in that. The difference is that rz combines strategy, planning, information gathering, and actual combat. Unlike series such as death note where the conflict is almost entirely intellectual, rz has characters physically fighting.
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 yeh but planning like that falls under thinking anime (Detective conan, Death note, code geass category)... which means its not meant to be compared with fight-fight shows like naruto, bleach, MT, etc. it has its own category.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 Fight involve stretegy, planning and etc stuff not just action sequences, Subaru use planning and stretegy for fighting while his other characters on action, subaru drives the story by gathering information, making plans, and using strategy to defeat his enemies.
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 I mean this is subjective opinion, right? well the idea of a show that emphasized on fights being good PRIMARILY from other characters fighting each other and the MC is just driving the story like subaru is kind of Meh.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@BarFida38586558 Both series magic systems are almost on the same level Power system is diff, it is defined by the ability to solve conflict with powers is directly proportional to how well the reader understands said power system. On that basis,rz takes it Structure and Narrative Both important
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josh@JoshuaAmusan6·
Can Orsted from Mushoku Tensei defeat Reinhard van Astrea from Re:Zero? 👀🔥 Who do you think wins this matchup? 🤔⚔️
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@drakail Rezero fights are more unique less about overpowering opponents and more about strategy and planning. Finding regulus weakness, petelgeuse soul transfer, and sirius soul damage transfer are perfect examples.
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AbsolumentFou@drakail·
@KEN21194 Fights are definitely better in Mushoku Tensei because of the animation. Re:zero has a better world building IF you take the Vollachian Empire arc (S5). Magic system : They are even.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@Wahoo6692 You doesn't even understand the concept of fight "someone else beside the MC" wtf. Also, you are right about the magic system that was my mistake. I wrote 'magic system' when I meant 'power system.' Both series magic systems on most same level
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Tyrant12@Wahoo6692·
@KEN21194 Reasons for change: Most of the fights for Rezero are someone else beside the MC. Magic System (its a system because its described and structured like a system, with levels and layers, and categorization) which MT does much better. We dont see Zero premise until much later.
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@BarFida38586558 Mt PS is more structured but rz PS is more narratively unpredictable and used as a psychological mirror to characters, Magic and Authority in rz has its limitations and example Regulus greed authority that gave him invincibility that manifestation of his insecurity and paranoia.
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I haven't thought of a name@BarFida38586558·
@KEN21194 Tbh I woud give magic to musokhu in re zero magic is mostly asspull and we dont even know its limits but in MT its more fleshed out
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@saigron5 @Rathiou_UwU I started from volume 10(s2p2), have already completed both anime seasons, and currently on volume 24. How much rezero have you read?
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KEN KLEIN@KEN21194·
@saigron5 RBD doesn't remove the stakes it changes them. Subaru can't reveal rbd, can lose trust and relationships, and he isn't strong or smart enough to solve everything by himself. The stakes isn't whether he and other die, but whether he can find a solution and save everyone(Rem loss)
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sushisai@saigron5·
@KEN21194 I disagree with stakes. In MT there are many times where it genuinely feels like a character will die and a character can all of a sudden just die. In Re:Zero I’ve never been worried about something going wrong because I know Subaru will just use RBD.
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